<p>We visited Stanford, Caltech, and Berkeley with my math/physics renaissance guy when he was a Jr. He liked Stanford and Berkeley, but decided against applying to Caltech when the uber-math brainiac from his HS that he visited there told him it was intense even for her. That plus it was smaller than what he wanted and very few girls. He was on the wait list at MIT til the last minute but didn’t get in–now the renaissance part of him is flourishing at Brown. He’ll likely still major in math, but gets lots of other good courses too. (whew! Berkeley was a real contender and we were so glad that the east coast prevailed!)</p>