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<p>Is this level of criticism really necessary? Just because you don't agree is no reason to engage in such labelling. </p>
<p>Frankly, w1cked, I'm disappointed.</p>
<p>The JBHE is an intelligent, objective, and patriotic organization. Please don't be disaapointed :(</p>
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<p>If anything, he was much too PC - "too Jewish" - for their liking, when it came to the things that really count.</p>
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<p>I would like to see some support for the idea that Summers was drummed out for being too Jewish, particularly in light of the fact that close to half of the Harvard faculty is Jewish, as was Summers' predecessor. I hope no one would put forth an accusation as serious as anti-Semitism without a lot of evidence behind it.</p>
<p>To revisit a theme that has been touched on in the Harvard forum, Summers is not simply a random member of the Harvard economics faculty. He is a figurehead whose primary job is to speak in public on behalf of the entire university. Thus, to criticize his remarks as untimely, sexist, tactless, etc. is entirely appropriate and has nothing whatsoever to do with academic freedom or intellectual diversity. Ordinary faculty members can put forth whatever theories they want in whatever context they want, and Harvard will stand behind their right to do it 100%. But when your #1 public relations guy is attracting tons of bad press, you take him down, period.</p>
<p>Hanna,</p>
<p>Well put.</p>
<p>Thank you, newmassdad, for that original and insightful contribution.</p>
<p>Meh whats the news with Ward Churchill now?</p>
<p>"I hope no one would put forth an accusation as serious as anti-Semitism without a lot of evidence behind it."</p>
<p>He was seen as loud, abrasive, not a team player, not a good schmoozer, not an effective "glad-hander", who didn't like the Harvard clubs, the tradition of "gentlemen-scholars" among undergrads, or athletics. I worked for him indirectly when he sat on the board of a metropolitan human rights organization, and his rep. there (and the reality) was the same. (You don't want to know what the WASPier members of the org. used to say behind his back, and, frankly, I didn't either.) My comment was directed at his style, and is far from original with me, which is why I placed it in quotation marks.</p>
<p>(I actually quite like him! even if I think he has a bad case of foot-in-mouth disease.)</p>
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Students Hail Harvard President
Their strong support for Lawrence H. Summers is seen by some as a sign of a shift in campus politics.
By Ellen Barry, Times Staff Writer
February 24 2006</p>
<p>CAMBRIDGE, Mass. If Harvard University President Lawrence H. Summers was worried about how the undergraduates would greet him Wednesday night at his first scheduled event since announcing his resignation, those fears quickly were put to rest.</p>
<p>He got a standing ovation after he walked in. He got a standing ovation before he left. A row of students with red letters painted on their chests spelled out "Larry."</p>
<p>Sarah Bahan, 22, was wi****l [wist-ful] as she left the meeting. She had kind words to say about Summers' emphasis on hard sciences.</p>
<p>Mark Hoadley, 21, said Summers' monotone speaking style was balanced by a "dynamic mind."</p>
<p>Troy Kollmer, 21, said "a lot of students feel bad for him and think he got a raw deal."</p>
<p>The show of student loyalty has come as a surprise to many faculty members and administrators at Harvard, who grew to loathe Summers during a five-year tenure that brought a raw blast of politics to the 370-year-old institution.
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<p>You don't want to know what the WASPier members of the org. used to say behind his back</p>
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<p>I certainly do want to know, and I'd further like to know how anti-Semitism at this human rights organization (if indeed it was an issue) indicates that anti-Semitism was at work at Harvard.</p>
<p>Summers drummed out for being "too Jewish"? This had never crossed my mind. If this is true, I would like more documentation. If not I would prefer to see that statement withdrawn.</p>
<p>I understand what you folks are saying about Minis claims. She really needs some proof to make the claim stick. But I also think you need to really consider what you are asking. Just imagine what would happen if she dumped proof right here. It would create a mess that I really suspect she is unwilling to endure. So, asking for proof is a little unreasonable (oddly enough) in this context. And what kind of proof could she give even if what she claims is true a recording? Cmon. This is the kind of thing that could go on for decades and no one would be able to do anything about it for the reasons I am mentioning here. To this day I REFUSE to buy gas from Texaco because of the racist statements its leaders were making at their board meetings. In these statements the guys clearly admit they are even having trouble with Jewish stuff and especially black stuff.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/business/november96/texaco_11-12.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/business/november96/texaco_11-12.html</a>
<a href="http://www.csulb.edu/%7Ed49er/fall1996/v3n11/v3n11otexaco.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.csulb.edu/~d49er/fall1996/v3n11/v3n11otexaco.html</a>
<a href="http://www.contilaw.com/pleadings/KeoughvTexaco.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.contilaw.com/pleadings/KeoughvTexaco.htm</a>
<a href="http://rwor.org/a/firstvol/883/texaco.htm%5B/url%5D">http://rwor.org/a/firstvol/883/texaco.htm</a></p>
<p>This sort of awful stuff obviously has gone on in Texaco for a gazillion years, with blacks feeling it and suffering under it and no one being willing to identify with it. Texaco folks obviously felt comfortable enough to say these sorts of things. People were complaining for ages about it and no one did anything because there wasnt the kind of PROOF you people are demanding here. Finally, after so much damage had been done, someone sneaked a recording device into a meeting and caught these people on tape. Even then they tried to lie their way out of it. So people like mini really dont stand a chance in convincing anyone about what she probably knows is the truth. All you have to do is demand she produce tapes, which 99% of time, she will just not be able to do.</p>
<p>I will hold minis claims loosely because she doesnt have tapes. But I am not going to dismiss them because I know how hard it is to deal with this kind of thing. And I am not going to demand she retract her claims. My own experiences, my own doubts about people, tell me that she is mostly likely right.</p>
<p>Just to be clear. I am not saying that anyone should accept mini's claims without evidence. I am saying that we ought not be quick to dismiss them because of how weird it is to deal with them. She could actually have seen this sort of stuff and yet because she didn't have a recording, no one would listen to her.</p>
<p>So, it seems best to me to just not really accept the claims, but not summarily dismiss them either. That is what I mean when I say I am 'holding them loosely'.</p>
<p>Here are five members of the Harvard Corporation, the governing board that determined Larry Summers fate:</p>
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<p>James Houghton Chairman of the Board of Directors, Corning Incorporated A.B., 1958, MBA, 1962</p>
<p>Nannerl Keohane Professor, Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs and the University Center for Human Values, Princeton University</p>
<p>Robert Reischauer President, The Urban Institute A.B., 1963</p>
<p>James Rotheberg President and Director, Capital Research and Management Company A.B., 1968, M.B.A., 1970</p>
<p>Robert Rubin Director, Chair of the Executive Committee, Citigroup A.B., 1960; LL.D. (honorary), 2001</p>
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<p>I don't know any of their religious affiliations (nor do I really care). However, I believe that it has sufficient Jewish representation among the five members to call into question Mini's conjecture.</p>
<p>Again, the Harvard Corporation supported the guy, until it just reached the point where they couldn't any longer. They had already lost the core of an entire department to Princeton and Stanford. In the face of what was obviously going to be regular votes of "no confidence" by the Faculty of Arts and Sciences, they had to stop the bleeding.</p>
<p>Thanks interestedad. That really helps a lot. Not to slam mini, but I think your point puts this aspect of the overall matter to rest as far as I am concerned.</p>
<p>Drosselmeier, Mini is a guy.</p>
<p>"Mini is a guy"</p>
<p><strong>cough</strong>
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<p>Sorry Mini. I know a few Minis and they are all female.</p>
<p>Hey. I made the same mistake a while back. Speaking completely without authorization for Mini, no big. That's why some of us have the words Dad and Mom in our screenames I guess:).</p>
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<p>the kind of PROOF you people are demanding here.</p>
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<p>I wasn't asking for proof -- obviously we aren't going to be sharing DNA test results on the board. I was hoping for a description of the evidence, if any, on which the allegation was based (e.g., "I overheard a member of the board say that we've got to get rid of those moneylenders in the temple, and two others nodded and agreed.")</p>
<p>That being said, I agree that the composition of the Harvard corporation makes any further discussion of anti-Semitism unnecessary.</p>
<p>I suspect that Ruth Wisse, professor of comparative literature (and the Martin Peretz Professor of Yiddish Literature) is similarly unconcerned that Summers was fired for being "too Jewish."</p>
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Since most Americans think it appropriate for a president to thus demonstrate his stewardship and leadership, they could not understand why such actions should have triggered faculty revolt. Even members of the media had trouble understanding what the fuss was about: incredulous, for example, that academics would protest against any expressed opinion. The governing body that appointed Mr. Summers and gave him a mandate for change, the Harvard Corporation, seemed for its part to welcome the energy he brought to the job. Several neglected campus units, such as the Law School and the School of Education, flourished as a result of his interventions. Mr. Summers strongly supported new investments in science and technology, areas where Harvard had been falling behind.</p>
<p>Harvard students frankly blossomed under the special attention he paid them. No university president in my experience had ever taken such a warm personal interest in undergraduate education. Not surprisingly, the students return his affection, polling three to one in favor of his staying on. The day he announced his resignation, they were out in force in Harvard Yard, chanting "Five More Years!"</p>
<p>The student newspaper, the Harvard Crimson, has been outspoken in its criticism of the faculty that demanded the president's ouster. "No Confidence in 'No Confidence'" ran the headline of an editorial demonstrating the spuriousness of the charges being brought against the president, and reminding faculty to stay focused on the educational process that ought to be its main concern.
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<p>This from The Crimson: <a href="http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=511545%5B/url%5D">http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=511545</a>
So who's out of touch? The students, or the FAS?</p>
<p>"moneylenders in the temple". Let's see -- Economics, Treasury Secretary -- check.</p>