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I am carrying the torch for Stanford, not Harvard.</p>
<p>We want the number one spot.
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<p>I'm surprised you didn't say that you're number one already.</p>
<p>If by the "number one spot" you refer to the number one spot in the USNews ranking, Stanford will first have to break out of its 5th place tie with Duke and overtake #4 Penn.</p>
<p>stanford is #1 in a lot of books!!! and tied with harvard in some. it's just as well known as harvard.</p>
<p>"Harvard is still - well - 'the Harvard of higher education'."</p>
<p>Even Fitzsimmons admits that Harvard isnt the warmest of places.</p>
<p>You probably arent going to get calls every day in your room asking you do you want to come out to play or go to lunch, he says. Its not the way Harvard works.</p>
<p>Penn has an undeserved #4 spot and nearly everyone can concedes that.</p>
<p>USNews, as I have maintained for years now, needs a serious reworking to accurately reflect "quality."</p>
<p>Why is it "undeserved?"</p>
<p>I agree that USNews is not a great source, i'm just wondering.</p>
<p>I don't concede that Stanford is better than Penn.
Then again, I don't think any school in the top 15 or so is any better than any other... the differences are so freaking insignificant at this level. You will get just as good any education at ANY of those schools.</p>
<p>I don't think that's true. </p>
<p>How is Penn "better" than Stanford?</p>
<p>All of Penn's statistical indicators lag behind a lot of schools that it is in front of.</p>
<p>The only statistical indicators that it "lags" behind in are those that have to do with undergraduate admissions...i am pretty sure that that's what you are thinking of. If you care to actually cite anything that might be helpful.</p>
<p>I agree with harvard<em>and</em>berkeley.</p>
<p>All of Stanford's departments, besides languages, East Asian studies, and business, are better than Penn's. </p>
<p>What else could one need?</p>