<p>Remember this article?:</p>
<p><a href="http://nymag.com/news/features/24398/%5B/url%5D">http://nymag.com/news/features/24398/</a></p>
<p>Nymag wrote an update about the ED/EA results:</p>
<p><a href="http://nymag.com/news/intelligencer/26299/%5B/url%5D">http://nymag.com/news/intelligencer/26299/</a></p>
<p>What about regular decision results?</p>
<p>A good majority of CC has better stats than that of these "super-applicants".</p>
<p>Ditto, some of those GPAs and SATs are abysmal by CC standards for Ivys, though most have very good ECs.</p>
<p>Yeah, but does anyone know how they did in the admissions process?</p>
<p>They are "super-applicants" in their own right. Many of them had to overcome adversity, if you bothered looking past the stats and into their short biographies. But then again, CC has a strange fixation with scores, because a lot of CCers are in fact not "real" people. They are just robots that want to study and get better scores and have very little going for them other than that. This of course does not apply to all CCers.</p>
<p>God forbid someone have a SAT in the 1900s. Oh, well, too bad. That person got into Yale and most other people don't, including some of the so called CCers with higher scores! Haha, I find it funny.</p>
<p>I did, they are not by any right "super-applicants" even if they overcame adversity. Are they very very good applicants? Yes; but they are not "super-applicants" for the Ivy leagues.</p>
<p>"a lot of CCers are in fact not "real" people"</p>
<p>Are you freaking kidding me? So what if a kid thinks getting into an Ivy is the most important thing in life, you have no right to judge them on that and call them robots. They CARE about getting into a good college, how is that any different than caring about anything else? In fact, you don't even know that; all you know about these people are the stats they post on a site ABOUT COLLEGE. What else you expect people to talk about?</p>
<p>Well said murkywater.</p>
<p>I did, they are not by any right "super-applicants" even if they overcame adversity. Are they very very good applicants? Yes; but they are not "super-applicants" for the Ivy leagues.</p>
<p>I'm glad you will never be on the adcom of any college. One of the girls in there battled cancer. Try battling cancer and getting a top GPA and then get back to me. Of course, you might already be dead then and all your college dreams will have been reduced to dust. Right? Take off your rose-colored glasses for a moment and think about how much some people have to go through. I'm not saying they were entitled to admission. But they had just as much of a chance as all the other kids showing off their scores on CC messageboards. </p>
<p>"Are you freaking kidding me? So what if a kid thinks getting into an Ivy is the most important thing in life, you have no right to judge them on that and call them robots. They CARE about getting into a good college, how is that any different than caring about anything else? In fact, you don't even know that; all you know about these people are the stats they post on a site ABOUT COLLEGE. What else you expect people to talk about?"</p>
<p>If getting into an Ivy is the most important thing in life, that person has no real passion for learning and is thus, in my opinion, an unattractive applicant. I'm not judging - it's called "having a life". These kids drive themselves crazy with getting into HYP or other selective institutions, as if they don't get in, their lives will end. People are going hungry in Africa -- God forbid someone doesn't get into Yale! OH MY GOD! THE INJUSTICE!</p>
<p>Yes, you're supposed to post about college here. But that doesn't mean you need to have a fixation about "scores" or getting into an Ivy. I sure did a while ago and I grew out of it. I post chances threads like other people do. Overall, however, I don't get stuck in the whole idea that I need to get into an Ivy-league school to validate my intelligence, unlike a lot of other CCers who feel worthless when they get rejected. You know why all I know about these people is their stats? Because that's all they POST. They don't talk about their lives. They just post their scores over and over. I can make any assumptions I want -- many people on this board are too fixated on college to care about actually learning and being passionate.</p>
<p>Wow, you need a reality check.. Caring about college is important. But thinking that your life depends on getting a certain score to get into a certain school is ridiculous.</p>
<p>Peace.</p>
<p>"some of those GPAs and SATs"</p>
<p>"But they had just as much of a chance as all the other kids showing off their scores on CC messageboards. "</p>
<p>EXACTLY, they are not "super", which is what I have been saying all along; they aren't any better than a lot of people on CC. Sure, they had to go through a lot, so do craploads of people. </p>
<p>Do you expect people to care about every single suffering person out there? YOU are living YOUR life; I'm not saying that you shouldn't help others, but for starving, suffering people; they will always exist. Make the best of your own life when you can, not at the expense of other people, but don't waste your life on others (unless you really want to ...).</p>
<p>Did I ever say that they were attractive applicants or even that I'd want to spend my time with someone like that? No; All I said was that you shouldn't judge someone based on a few posts on a forum and immediately say that they aren't REAL PEOPLE; to strip people of humanity, just because they care intensely about something which you find trivial and shallow, is far more insulting to me than just saying that they're boring pricks. If they have passion about anything at all (I could care less about what) I would not ever consider them "robots."</p>
<p>Wow, you need to realize that I'm not talking about myself. I personally have rather ****ty scores and had originally planned on going to a school ranked in the 90s, college was the last thing on my mind.</p>
<p>I agree with murky. Some people on this site are obsessed. I won't be surprised when a paper writes about this site negatively.</p>
<p>I on the other hand, agree with Charisma. But then, this is a site fer advice and that's why ivy-obsessed people are on here. Don't be poopin' on 'em fer tryin' to get advice on getting into a good college. However, I do agree with murkywater in being too STAT obsessive. There's no real point, because SAT's and GPA's, though they remain important factors, have lost much of their mythical status as of late, with so many high scorers and such. Whatever. We all just gotta chill a bit, don't judge people by what they post here...obviously you won't find someone with a "life" because its all 'bout academics anyway.</p>
<p>EXACTLY, they are not "super", which is what I have been saying all along; they aren't any better than a lot of people on CC. Sure, they had to go through a lot, so do craploads of people.</p>
<p>My point is that anyone applying to these schools with a decent chance IS a super-applicant. Even getting waitlisted is suddenly an honor.</p>
<p>"but don't waste your life on others"</p>
<p>People like you make me sad. But that's OK, there's a lot more people that care about others and take into consideration the background of people, rather than just 'hard stats'. You sound really selfish and uncaring about the adversity people have to face. Maybe because YOU don't have to face it, it's easy to dismiss it. Please, if you ever get cancer, post back on CC. Your thoughts will be radically changed.</p>
<p>"Do you expect people to care about every single suffering person out there?"</p>
<p>No, because there's people like you out there in the world. ;-)</p>
<p>Some people on this board clearly ARE robots. They post that they only want to go into an Ivy-League school and would go to crazy lengths to get it. I have seen CCers like this -- to me, they are robots. They don't care about learning. They are desperate enough to post in a forum about it. Sometimes they quite blatantly make it CLEAR that they don't care about anything accept getting accepted into a specific school/ And worst of all, they never learn -- they continue to make the same mistakes. SOME CCers are like this. You can find their posts scattered all over. I didn't strip them of humanity -- they did it to themselves.</p>
<p>I already said that they're super-applicants compared to the rest of HS seniors, but as you JUST SAID, they are not in comparison to Ivy league applicants, which is WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING.</p>
<p>When you spend donate all your possessions to charity and spend the rest of your life helping those starving people in Africa, you can continue your holier than thou attitude with no objections from me, but until then, you're no better than anyone else.</p>
<p>Thoughts are only thoughts, you can worry until you're sick about all the suffering in the world, but all you're doing is inflicting pain on yourself, which is doing absolutly nothing to help anyone. Even if you just give 100 bucks a year to charity for tax purposes and spend the rest of the year being selfish, you've still helped more than the person who thinks but never acts.</p>
<p>See, that's where you're wrong, they may say that they only care about getting into college, but have you met the people? Can you seriously say with a straight face that "most" people on CC wouldn't care if their parents or loved ones died? Even if they don't give a **** about their parents, they have emotions regarding college, last time I checked robots don't have emotions. They're people too, whether approve of what they do or not, you're the shallow one if you judge and insult these people with out knowing anything about them.</p>
<p>I share similar feelings as Murkywater...many parents and kids on this forum are just wraped up in the ivy leauge. They post stellar stats and if they don't get in...may God help us.</p>
<p>"I already said that they're super-applicants compared to the rest of HS seniors, but as you JUST SAID, they are not in comparison to Ivy league applicants, which is WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING."</p>
<p>No, because that's NOT what I said. I said they have a decent shot, compared to all other applicants applying to Ivy-league or equivalent schools. YOU AREN'T LISTENING. [/sarcasm] Stop using caps. It's sad.</p>
<p>"When you spend donate all your possessions to charity and spend the rest of your life helping those starving people in Africa, you can continue your holier than thou attitude with no objections from me, but until then, you're no better than anyone else."</p>
<p>Uh, okay? I'm not going to refute this. You just feel bad because you don't care about others' backgrounds and judge them based on numbers and I called you out on this.</p>
<p>"Thoughts are only thoughts, you can worry until you're sick about all the suffering in the world, but all you're doing is inflicting pain on yourself, which is doing absolutly nothing to help anyone. Even if you just give 100 bucks a year to charity for tax purposes and spend the rest of the year being selfish, you've still helped more than the person who thinks but never acts."</p>
<p>No, there are people who worry and change the world. </p>
<p>"See, that's where you're wrong, they may say that they only care about getting into college, but have you met the people? Can you seriously say with a straight face that "most" people on CC wouldn't care if their parents or loved ones died? Even if they don't give a **** about their parents, they have emotions regarding college, last time I checked robots don't have emotions. They're people too, whether approve of what they do or not, you're the shallow one if you judge and insult these people with out knowing anything about them."</p>
<p>I haven't met them, but you can tell a whole lot by what they voluntarily decide to share with strangers of the Internet. They are a lot more free with what they say because they don't have to meet these people in person. I didn't say "most". I said some. Please read my posts over, before misunderstanding what I say. </p>
<p>I didn't point out specific people to judge. I said that there are some people on CC that are simply obsessed to an unhealthy degree into gaining admission into the very selective institutions in our country. This is harmful them and harmful for society, because it perpetuates the idea that their accomplishments must be validated. </p>
<p>I don't have to know anything about them. All I need to know is what they voluntarily share with people over the Internet. It's called 'paying attention'.</p>
<p>;-)</p>
<p>"anyone applying to these schools with a decent chance IS a super-applicant."
You're saying "decent chance" which means that they are NOT "super-applicants" in comparison to all the other Ivy-league applicants (or else they would stand an excellent chance), but that they are "super-applicants" in comparison to ALL applicants to ALL colleges.
BTW, what did you say about caps? Make sure you aren't doing what you condemn first.</p>
<p>"When you spend donate all your possessions to charity and spend the rest of your life helping those starving people in Africa, you can continue your holier than thou attitude with no objections from me, but until then, you're no better than anyone else."</p>
<p>Uh, okay? I'm not going to refute this. You just feel bad because you don't care about others' backgrounds and judge them based on numbers and I called you out on this. <---------- What does this even have to do with my example of spending your entire life helping others (which you seem to think everyone should do considering you said "People like you make me sad." in response to my saying that you shouldn't waste your life only helping others but never yourself)</p>
<p>Well, kindly enlighten me as to who can suddenly broadcast their thoughts and change the world without speaking a single word or moving a muscle.</p>
<p>LOL, yes, everything people say over the internet is 100% accurate and representative of them as a whole person, so when I say I'd sell my mother to go to Harvard of course I'd actually do it.</p>
<p>"I said that there are some people on CC that are simply obsessed to an unhealthy degree into gaining admission into the very selective institutions in our country."</p>
<p>Yes, that is why we should insult them; that's like saying than we should go up to someone with anorexia and say that they're not "real people" and "robots" because they are simply obsessed to an unhealthy degree with being thin.</p>
<p>The only information anyone is going to share on this website is about college, I don't start waxing about my passion for knitting and my deep desire to go out on a date with Bobby Smith. It's called realizing that this is a forum about a specific topic and that it is impossible to fully comprehend what someone is about by reading their posts about college.</p>
<p>This is a ridiculous argument. Murkywater, there may be a large number of people here who are scores-obsessed. However, I promise you there are just as many if not more that are not. I've personally never been ivy-obsessed - the only ivy I ever wanted to go to was Columbia, and I didn't even end up applying there because it wasn't my first choice (got into ED).</p>
<p>Also, there are indeed people who worry and change the world. You are not one of them. Which really makes what you're trying to say there a moot point, because Charisma is right in one aspect - you can try to act morally superior to everyone else here, but there's plenty of people here who care about the plight of Africa. What people don't care for is you bringing it up as a valid reason for why people shouldn't be disappointed if they didn't get into an ivy. If someone ran you over with a pick-up truck and you lived, would you complain? Hell yes! But did you at least get to live the life infants who die at the age of 1 in Africa didn't? Yes - so by the same logic you shouldn't be complaining either.</p>
<p>Back to the real topic at hand though, I ASSURE everyone in this thread that at least one those those "super-applicants" did not overcome any adversity whatsoever. Or overachieve. In fact, I'm sick of that "super-applicant" article because it's so untrue it hurts.</p>
<p>WOW, Charisma, you're really charming!</p>
<p>I hate the Africa argument. People bring it up like it's the only thing going wrong in the world. In case you guys totally missed the memo, the entire land mass south of the US-Mexican border suffers as well. Oh, and the other land mass on the right-hand side of your map? That giant chunk of Asian countryside? Yes.. lots of suffering. People die for food, yearn to attend elementary school, have never ridden in a car.. yes, all the things you see in those cute little Christian Children's Fund commercials. It's something to bring up when an adult asks you what matters to you. Palatable, simple. Sincere.</p>
<p>My username is solely there cause it sounds pretty and I'm too lazy to come up with a new one and most definitely not indicative of my (nonexistant) blinding magnetism and charm. </p>
<p>Anyways, no one even suggested that Africa is the only place with issues, and I'm well aware that there are plenty of other places with economic troubles. But you can't argue that Africa is the world's poorest continent (well, assuming you don't count Antarctica), which is why it is often the first place that comes to mind.</p>