Take MAC 1147 or MAC 1114..Prep for Calc?

<p>I already have Precalc credit from CC that I took Fall last year, but I don't really rememebr much, so I considered enrolling in MAC 1114 because I haven't taken Trig. yet. But should I just take trig MAC 1114? I wanted to take 1147 to get a good review becuase I want to move on to Calc 1. and I have never taken a Calc course before. I cannot say that math is my strong suit but I don't really like math. I was thinking about jsut reviewing some precal by myself and just take MAC 1114. Can anyone offer me any idea on what I should do and ultiamtely tell me about how I can be prepared fro Calc 1.</p>

<p>Also, one of the reason I want to take trig is because I'm not sure if I can handle accelerated class, alongside Gen Chem 2 etc.</p>

<p>What precalc course did you take already? MAC1140?</p>

<p>There are two ways to get sufficient credit and knowledge for entering MAC2311:</p>

<p>1) Take just MAC1147, which includes algebra and trig combined into one more intense class;</p>

<p>2) Take MAC1140 (“precalc” algebra) and MAC1114 (“precalc” trig), which count TOGETHER as the equivalent of MAC1147 (for prereq purposes, not by number of credits earned if that makes sense).</p>

<p>If you’ve done MAC1140, you should be able to do MAC1114 and be fine for meeting the Calc prereqs. However, if you really want a review on the algebra part as well, MAC1147 should do. Most places will not offer you credit for both MAC1147 and MAC1140, though, so watch out for that.</p>

<p>Edit: I want to add that you should look into the online program known as ALEKS (<a href=“http://www.aleks.com%5B/url%5D”>www.aleks.com</a>). This is an EXCELLENT tool for learning all you need to know prior to entering Calculus 1, if you can find time to complete most of the program. There is a trial period so you can check it out for free, but it DOES cost about $20 a month to subscribe to after the trial is up.</p>

<p>Using ALEKS for 3 solid weeks of studying, I was able to pass a placement test at my CC that put me into Calc 1 without having to actually sit through MAC1147. I went on to get A’s in Calc 1,2, and 3, plus Differential Equations, built on the knowledge I got from the ALEKS pre-calc program.</p>

<p>Yes I got the credit for MAC 1140. I never took the Aleks test because I knew that I still needed Trig credit and I just didn’t bother with it. My main concern was the difficulty of the course </p>

<p>Thanks for the help.</p>

<p>The ALEKS program I’m talking about isn’t the credit by test version. ALEKS also offers a program that’s just a comprehensive course on precalc which will teach you trig if you don’t know it yet, among a lot of other things. It doesn’t get reported anywhere, and you just learn as much as you want on your own pace, until you’re satisfied, or until you’ve mastered all topics in the course.</p>

<p>The ALEKS course IS difficult, but they hold your hand the whole way until you’ve learned it and can move on.</p>

<p>That aside, though… if you want to take the college classes, you’ve got options.</p>

<p>Oh, okay. I see.</p>

<p>As I understand, to enroll in MAC 2311, there are 3 options:</p>

<p>1) get score 75% or higher on the ALEKS exam
2) get credit for MAC 1147
3) get credit for MAC 1140 + MAC 1117. </p>

<p>You stated that you wanted a precalc review before taking MAC 2311, so Option 1 is out of the question. Take MAC 1147 if you want to review both algebra and trig. If you’re already comfortable with algebra and only need a trig review, then just take MAC 1117, and move on to MAC 2311. </p>

<p>By the way, if you score 75% on ALEKS, you don’t need MAC 1147 or MAC 1140 + MAC 1117 credit. The score is enough to allow you to enroll in Calc 1. It’s essentially a way for people to enroll in Calc 1 when they don’t have the necessary credits from a CC or high school. However, if you haven’t gone to preview yet, I would highly suggest taking ALEKS and the ChRA for chemistry if your major requires it. People don’t always have their exam scores/CC credits in by preview, so it’s better to the the tests to ensure that nothing is in your way when you choose courses. I didn’t know about ALEKS or the ChRA until Preview, so I had to wait until August to switch to Calc 1 and Chem 1 + lab, which meant stalking ISIS for a few weeks and emailing the AAC to get on a waitlist for Chem 1 lab.</p>

<p>I had my preview 2 weeks ago and I was just contempalting changing my course and emailing the preview people to change the class, since I can’t until Aug. 2. Do you think you could tell me like your experience with Calc? I know that people say it is very difficult but what do you think it would take to get a good grade in the class… Also, have you taken Gen Chem 2 yet?</p>

<p>I have taken both Calc 1 and Chem 2.</p>

<p>I had Smith for Calc 1. It started off kinda hard for me. I got a C and B on my first two exams, but then I started doing Study Edge, and my exam grades shot up 15%+. It’s had the same effect on 3 of my friends’ grades. Smith is a good teacher, but her exams are VERY tricky, so it’s important to be able to see through deception. After all, it is a weed-out class. Also, if you talk to her in office hours she’s very nice and will explain concepts well if you don’t understand them. Anyone who complains about her is probably mad because they didn’t do well in the class. With the proper study skills and resources, getting an A is very possible. I finished the course with an A (94%) because although I did poorly on my first two exams, I got As on the rest and I got near perfect scores on most of my quizzes and WebAssign HW, always handed in my written HW completed, and got all of my class participation points from HITT clicker. My main point: use study edge, I can almost guarantee it will get you an A in Calc 1.</p>

<p>Chem 2 was a different story. I had Gower for both Chem 1 and 2. I got a C+ in Chem 1 because I never did any practice exams until the finals; I only did Study Edge, which doesn’t help as much for Calc as it does for Chem, but it’s still helpful nonetheless. So, in Chem 1, I got Ds on my 3 midterms and a B on the final, but I got near perfect scores on my quizzes. I told myself I would learn from my mistake of not doing practice exams after starting Chem 2. As it turns out…Gower does not give practice exams in Chem 2 because he keeps all of the old ones to make his 10 online quizzes. So, I relied mostly on Study Edge and the exams I found online. I did awful on most of my exams except my 3rd one and ended with a B-. As with Calc, the exams are very deceptive. I was really disappointed at the turnout because I’m pre-med. So for Chem 1, I recommend Mitchell, because he writes most of the exam questions. For Chem 2, I recommend Toth. Although she gives out HW problems and live quizzes, you can get a perfect score on them by having perfect attendance in discussion, so essentially, your only obstacle to success in Chem 2 would be the exams.</p>