taking Native language SATII ??!?

<p>Okay, let's face it!
we know we can nail our native language in SATII
For me, it is Korean.
BUt does it do anything for you?
If I say I live there for almost all my lives (16 years to be exact), they know I can speak, write, or do anything with my native language.
Hell!, My brain is programmed in korean ; )
However, I heard some students who actually took their native language in SATII.
Hmmmm, I heared it was no use??, but maybe it does something?</p>

<p>so my question is this:
did you take your native language in SATII? If you did, does it do anything to help you in admssion process? OR have you heard any case about it?</p>

<p>plz post it freely. so we can enjoy each other's wisdom</p>

<p>I know that Harvard specifically counsels against it.</p>

<p>yeah I asked this question earlier on also. I got responses like - DOnt take it.
I even asked this guy who teaches at an international college and he told me that it actually works AGAINST you.</p>

<p>and if you take it as one of your (required) 3 SAT IIs, you'll be looked down upon by the adcoms.</p>

<p>so if you're considering it, even as the 4th SAT II, I dont recommend it because the adcoms will think: "why the hell did he/she take this? to prove what? that she/he can speak his/her own language? does this person have nothing better to do?"</p>

<p>Foreign language SATIIs are pitched at about the 3rd grade level. Demonstrating to the adcoms that you, as a native speaker, have mastered the language level of an 8-year-old is not going to impress them.</p>

<p>They'll think you are trying to take the easy way around a requirement.</p>

<p>but it'll look goo dif you take a language other than our native one, and nailed(not screwed) it.</p>

<p>i kinda of disagree with all, i think it may actually prove that you know your language that's y i am taking Chinese :)</p>

<p>I took it, but I didn't take to to fulfill the requirements. I took math IIC, chemistry, writing, and US history to do that. </p>

<p>I only took it to prove that I speak another language fluently. I viewed it as.. taking a TOEFL in a way (to prove my fluency in English). </p>

<p>I kinda disagree with taking SATII in native language working against an applicant. If one took it to fulfill the requirement? Maybe. But other than that, it can't do anything but help you. My counselor actually encouraged me to take it. </p>

<p>Just my two cents there. And oh,violetjune>>I'm Korean too. The exam is not difficult at all.</p>

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<p>This is exactly the point. The SATII foreign language exams are not difficult at all for native speakers. What does taking one prove? It's like an NBA team playing a high school team. What would beating them prove?</p>

<p>Isn't it bad enough for us non-native English speakers to take the SAT I verbal in English, so is it really that unfair for us to make up for our disadvantage by taking a one-hour, and according to you guys almost insignificant, test? If we have the proficiency, why not show it? After all, it did take us years to learn our native languages, right?</p>

<p>considering many messages including newspaper articles.
I decided not to think about it anymore.
AS you guys said there is no point in proving my language skill in 3rd grade level exam!
:-)</p>

<p>lol. it won't do me any good. I'm Korean Canadian- but my korean isn't very good. besides, even if I do get a good mark- you'll be what, only in the 72th percentile?</p>

<p>Well yy0712 if you did so many years to learn your foreign language and think taking the SAT verbal is a disadvantage why you applying to AMerican Unis then? </p>

<p>Personally i know 5 languages and think taking a language proficiency test in your native language will prove nothing! Its like saying you know english if you score 650+ in the verbal!!</p>

<p>yy0712, In my opinion, I DONT think it's unfair to take SAT I. I think it's very very fair. I mean, if we are planning to go to a US university, we are planning to live in the U.S. And as everyone knows, their primary language is English. How is it unfair to take an english test to go to an american school?
And also, we did not LEARN our native language like as we LEARNT our foreign language. It's completely different! Our native language is practically what we've been surrounded with so it kinda 'come' to us.</p>

<p>We internationals are 'supposed' to be fluent in our native language.. and the adcoms think we all are. So why prove that we can speak our language? Then they'll think that we are trying to impress them and that's what they dont want in a student..(also they dont look for a student who WASTES TIME to prove to adcoms.. so i.e taking a useless 1hr test)</p>

<p>It looks lazy. It also looks like you are interested in great scores but aren't interested in learning. The elite colleges are the only ones requiring the SAT IIs and they want students who are interested in intellectualy stretching themselves, not students who are seeking the easy way of education.</p>

<p>I say do it, but as an extra score. The UCs don't care what test you took so it would be an easy 800, if you're applying to any of them.</p>

<p>For the colleges that do care, it can't be that bad either. The last two people to get into Harvard from my school have taken the SAT II in their native language (but not as one of the required 3, just as an extra). One of them didn't even get an 800!</p>