<p>It’s not exactly luck. God isn’t rolling dice at conception here. Being smart is who they are, it’s not like they won the intelligence lottery when they were freshmen and just started tearing it up…</p>
<p>^So now you’re saying they EARNED their smartness? Isn’t that hard work, then: whoever works harder becomes smarter?</p>
<p>Guess that means we’re all losing to people who work harder.</p>
<p>There IS something as natural intelligence. However to bring this intelligence out there must be a combination of luck, preparation, and good timing.</p>
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<p>No, let me explain. </p>
<p>Luck implies that there was an alternative to the outcome. If a die can only roll a 1, then there’s no luck at all. Similarly, there is no alternative for a person being who they are. If a smart person isn’t smart, then they aren’t themselves. There is no alternative. </p>
<p>It certainly isn’t fair, but luck is definitely not the word for it.</p>
<p><<luck implies=“” that=“” there=“” was=“” an=“” alternative=“” to=“” the=“” outcome.=“”>></luck></p>
<p>One alternative outcome to being average: smart.</p>
<p>So I still don’t get it. Using die, you can roll, say, 1, 2, or 3. 1 is below-average; 2 is average; 3 is smart. You can get ANY of those by birth.</p>
<p>Isn’t that luck? Unless you’re gonna explain everything using probability, then you might as wel say that the guy who won the lottery wasn’t by luck.</p>
<p>If you received a poor SAT score, your kids will probably score not so high on the SAT as well. It’s a test on innate reasoning.</p>
<p>Person X has an IQ of 100. </p>
<p>If person X didn’t have an IQ of 100, he would not be person X. He would be someone else. Person X can’t be person X without his intelligence. </p>
<p>Once again, god isn’t rolling dice at the time of conception. </p>
<p>A smart person just is. </p>
<p>I’m making no sense, am I?</p>
<p>^To a degree. I would say there’s more of a range of scores for certain people. Even an illiterate genius can’t get a 1500. But yeah, work can only get you so far.</p>
<p>I’d rather be beat by hard work. Because I hate to lose and if they were beating me only because of hard work, then I’d know I could beat them if I put in as much effort.</p>
<p>I say that having good wortk ethic is a talent itself, something that will be praised for now and in the future. Others find it hard to open their textbook on a Saturday night, or stay in their desk for five hours straight studying. Sometimes my motivation just goes away, and I’m jealous at the people who has the momentum to keep going at a constant rate. In the real world, you need both – you wouldn’t have a choice to choose what you would be beaten; they’ll be inseparable. But I wouldn’t care who I would be beaten by, a talented person or a hard working person, as long as it is a humble person.</p>
<p>I’d rather be beaten by work ethic. It tells me I need to get my act together and try harder. It encourages me. [ps: work ethic beats talent in the end: that’s what has happened the last 4 years of me playing the trumpet]</p>
<p>I’d rather not be beaten in the first place.</p>
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Absolutely not. I doubt there is a single case at the highest level of anything in which work ethic ultimately triumphs over actual talent.</p>
<p>Eh, Idk bout your experience, I’m just saying that’s what happened wih me and my trumpet playing. </p>
<p>I was talented but I didn’t practice and I started losing chair auditions. Now I’m almost back on top.</p>
<p>Not about experience. You can’t reach the highest level of anything with work ethic alone.</p>
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<p>Erm… that’s a little bit much don’t you think? Certainly you can’t become great without some talent, but if one have some talent but a lot more work ethic than someone who doesn’t have a lot of work ethic (but is very talented), they have a chance at being better. Not if they have no talent, but some gaps in ability can be made up for by hard work.</p>
<p>Neither can you say naturally smart people EARNED their intelligence nor can you say it was luck.</p>
<p>Chance though, if you consider genetics.</p>
<p>I rather get beat by a person whose intelligence and hard work complement each other.</p>
<p>I don’t even know what to call it at this point. lol…chance related to luck.</p>
<p>imo any so called “talent” a person is typically fostered by hard work at a younger age. So in the end they’re typically equivalent. I personally respect both.</p>