Talking to coaches at camps

<p>Question here: </p>

<p>D, rising senior, is attending a college camp this week (i.e. prior to July 1). Is she allowed to talk to acoach? During the camp.... after the camp is over? It's a curious situation: she had written to head coach to say she was attending and could they meet (they'd been corresponding for a few months) but that coach just stepped down from the position, is moving on and is obviously not at the camp any more! So this is a case of D wishing to speak to asst. coach. Anyway, what are the rules for this? It's D1.</p>

<p>Thanks so much for any advice!</p>

<p>don’t know about rules but all the college coaches that worked the camps my daughter attended, starting when she was 15, talked to the athletes all day long, after all that’s what they are there to do!</p>

<p>Maybe they just don’t talk about recruiting. Don’t know if they ever brought that subject up with my daughter. But does it really matter, if you’re good athlete and you’ve become somewhat known and friendly with college coaches that puts you in a good position when recruiting kicks in.</p>

<p>I always recommend athletes attend camps where college coaches work in the summer. Even if those coaches don’t work at colleges you’re interested in. 1) you get experience with college coaches and 2) they all know each other and talk about the next group of athletes coming up</p>

<p>Sorry, I mean specifically about being recruited. D has also attended summer camps since she was 15 and talked to coaches… and some coaches have given talks on the recruiting process in general.</p>

<p>But now recruiting HAS kicked in, here and at other places. D had been in conversation for months with departing coach. That coach was interested in her. She had her transcript, her scores, the whole deal.</p>

<p>So D wanted to treat this as an unofficial visit (we live many states away from this college) and get some one-on-one time to talk. As I mentioned, she had specifically emailed departing coach to ask if they could meet together during camp but that question wasn’t answered as coach left. So, anyone know the rules for this?</p>

<p>If I understand you correctly, I don’t see how it’s any different than emailing a coach over spring break to tell him you’ll be on campus and would appreciate a chance to meet him and discuss the program. I would have your daughter go ahead and call or email the coach’s replacement to see if she can arrange a meeting.</p>

<p>i think I got it, the camp is at the college that she would like to attend, correct? In that case I think Varska is right, you can meet the coach on campus.</p>

<p>and ya, call the coach and find out</p>

<p>Coaches can talk about recruiting prior to July 1st, but in general not specific terms. Do all coaches adhere to this rule, no they don’t. But chances are, a brand new head coach probably will. So, if you/your daughter are looking for an opportunity to meet the coach, no problem. If you/your daughter are looking to talk to the coach specifically about recruiting your daughter, that is against the rules.</p>

<p>Thanks for all the good advice folks. Fishymom, especially appreciate that reminder about what kind of discussion you can have before July 1.</p>

<p>In my experience as an athlete, yes you can. It would be considered an unofficial visit just like if you were going to the campus at any other time. Coaches aren’t allowed to call you before July 1st of your senior year, but you can talk to them. I talked to three different coaches from three different schools on my unofficial visits (spring of junior year), and we talked about possible official visit dates, how the program runs, the incoming class, future goals of the program, student athlete life, and other stuff like that. They may also tell you who their looking at as part of your class. All the coaches also told me where I stand on their recruiting lists like “we are looking at three serious athletes and you are one of them” or “you’re at the top of our list”. Typically a good clue of your chances is if they start talking about giving you an official visit or seeing you again in the fall. Hope this helps. Feel free to PM me if you need help on the recruiting process.</p>

<p>Coldwinter, appreciate that, and thinking back to her one unofficial visit so far (in early Feb.) her experience was like yours. There was some specific talk about recruiting her, on the order of: send me your transcript, it’ll be one of those I send to admissions in the summer, etc. etc.</p>

<p>But back to camps, in particular, we have just found an answer from the source, NCAA rules. So for general edification (I am edified!)</p>

<p>"13.12.1.4 Recruiting Calendar Exceptions. </p>

<p>Previous Cite: 13.12.1.3.1.2 No Physical Activity.<br>
Next Cite: 13.12.1.4.1 Exception – Recruiting Conversations During Camps and Clinics – Mens’s Basketball.</p>

<p>The interaction during sports camps and clinics between prospective student-athletes and those coaches employed by the camp or clinic is not subject to the recruiting calendar restrictions. However, an institutional staff member employed at any camp or clinic (e.g., counselor, director) is prohibited from recruiting any prospective student-athlete during the time period that the camp or clinic is conducted (from the time the prospective student-athlete reports to the camp or clinic until the conclusion of all camp activities). The prohibition against recruiting includes extending verbal or written offers of financial aid to any prospective student-athlete during his or her attendance at the camp or clinic. Other coaches wishing to attend the camp as observers must comply with appropriate recruiting contact and evaluation periods. In addition, institutional camps or clinics may not be conducted during a dead period. (Revised: 4/3/02)</p>

<p>how about an email sent June 1st, guaranteeing admissions, 30 days before July 1st? </p>

<p>that’s gotta be a no, no.</p>