<p>Do any of you agree with her philosophy??
especially top students on here--is this how you see school?</p>
<p>My precal teacher (who is from china) yells at us everyday and is like "i need you guys to be miserable everydayy, not all bubbly. if you are not suffering, you are not trying hard. there is no laughing! this is a college class. no fun! no fun!" (im in high school btw--junior)
She then goes on to tell us her stories of her daughter of how she used to yell at her everyday (my teacher locked her daughter in a basement when she was 5 years old for 4 hours be/c her daughter asked her a question about hw) and how much her daughter hates her now--but then she's like be/c i was hard on her she is now making $300,000 salary (or once she graduates).</p>
<p>But is this the proper mentality to have when learning? Do I have to be miserable for four years in order to succeed? I do best when I am passionate about my classes and love them--i make myself love them. I am not miserable yet i am number one in my class.</p>
<p>ALSO--is this really the proper philosophy for learning?? she sees it as a chore--i see it as a enlightening experience (lol). dont you find it better to succeed while happy and respectful to others? i know succeeding takes hard work but is it nec. to be miserable??</p>
<p>Sorry for the rant, lol, but like i really need opinions on this...i am about to like die in her class be/c she does not respect anyone. she just yells yells yells every morning--i have her first thing in the morning! (aaw man i just made my rant longer :p)</p>
<p>dude, you couldn’t pay me all the money in the world to ruin a relationship with my parents.</p>
<p>I am sorry to all Asians on here, but generally speaking their culture revolves around hard work and almost perfection.</p>
<p>It is not the proper mentality to have when learning. To put it very lightly, your teacher is a ****** bag and her child deserved to get taken away from her at the age of 5. If you don’t know something, you’re supposed to ask a question and learn whatever it is that you don’t know. You’re not supposed to be punished for not understanding something.</p>
<p>Idk how to quote people (anyone mind telling me how?), but you said But is this the proper mentality to have when learning? Do I have to be miserable for four years in order to succeed?* I do best when I am passionate about my classes and love them–i make myself love them**. I am not miserable yet i am number one in my class.*</p>
<p>The bolded part is why you are #1 in your class. Is being #1 in your class not successful at this stage in your high school career because you’re not miserable? Would being #1 mean the same to you if you were miserable? The answer is 100% no. I have a feeling you’ll get into a fantastic college and end up with a great career. </p>
<p>I’ll give an example on why you’re teacher is wrong. Take Lebron james for example; he is one of, if not the best player in the NBA. Is he miserable? No- he loves his sport and that is why he is the best at it. When you enjoy doing something, you put your all into it and that is why it is done so well. The fact that you learn to love your classes tells me that you can get by in whatever you do. Your take towards your classes extends wayyyyyyyy beyond the classroom; it translates into real life situations.</p>
<p>Depends on your definition of success. In my book, if you’re miserable and hate your life you aren’t successful. but if you’re talking about fame and riches, well, most rich and famous people had miserable childhoods.</p>
<p>@JW1212-- Yes exactly. Everyone is just so intimidated by her–I just feel bad for anyone who walks around this “philosophy.” I always just thought I was different be/c i am more of the creative free humanities type, but like after awhile im just like…wow is she really serious?? being yelled at everyday affects everyone emotionally–her children may become “successful” doctors, but how are they going to be mentally after such a childhood?..</p>
<p>@MosbyMarion-- success to me is getting into a top college and landing my dream job and having a family and blah blah blah–just being satisfied.</p>
<p>The contemporary belief is that you need to be passionate about (and obviously talented in) your work. Success usually follows.</p>
<p>Anyone with a certain amount of skill and composure can make the equivalent of a $300k salary through the stock market and poker (at least, that’s what I’m thinking at this moment lol). </p>
<p>There’s no denying the fact that you can get rather wealthy through hard, spirit-breaking work. But I personally think there’s more to life than just working.</p>
<p>Mosby- I am going to respectfully disagree 100% with your comment. As far as fame and riches go, most people who have it were not miserable as a child. You only hear about the ones who are because it adds sympathy to their story and gives them more recognition/fans. </p>
<p>wahkimoocow- I’m not sure whether or not you’re referring to yourself when you talk about being affected emotionally, but if you are there is no need to be. One teacher (especially that one) shouldn’t bring you down because you have to realize that she’s just another jerk, not someone close to you. You will come in contact with people A LOT worse than she is. She’s an angry teacher who i would guess had some trouble with her childhood. This comment might sound a bit mean, but the reason i think this is because she’s a school teacher. How much money do school teachers make? It definitely varies, but it’s not nearly the amount that doctors make She’s probably distraught that she’s a teacher, hates her job, and thinks that she should have a profession that makes more money.</p>
<p>I think she is telling the students to push themselves academically to the point that they are miserable because they are not satisfied with their grade, tired from studying late into the night, socially suffering because they are taking several AP classes and must choose to study instead of hanging out with their friends, whining and complaining because the schoolwork never ends, deadlines are always around the corner, their performance on papers and essays could have been more polished.
The message is don’t let up and relax until you’ve accomplished your academic goals.
She is at least getting a reaction from you instead apathy.
Good for her, she cares about her students, albeit in a unusual way.
She got you to post on CC about her. Score!</p>
<p>Jersey13-- and you think im a ■■■■■ be/c?.. o_O. in other words, no I am not a ■■■■■, lol. Are you saying that be/c you cant believe a teacher would say such a thing? Well if so, thats the same thing Im feeling–and Im told this everyday by her–and thanks JW1212, I really shouldnt take things so personally–but its just affecting me, lol. and yea i never considered why/how she is the way she is.</p>
<p>@Batllo-- lol, you see but its having a reverse effect…most student who have her are upset and therefore dont do work for her (im not one of them but yea…).
In addition, there are many teachers (renowned teachers) who push their students just as hard but its accompanied with the importance of the joy learning…there’s no yelling everyday for 10 minutes at least…there’s no belittling…yet students are still scoring 4-5 on the ap exams in those classes (about half had a 4-5 in ap history last year for example)</p>
<p>myself-- i am in 3 aps this year–which require time ane energy yes, and yes i do sacrifice a social life, but i dont look at it and say “oohhh im miserable :(” i look at as just a balancing of time. students dont need that type of teaching style…its not helping anyone… so no, no score :p</p>
<p>That’s insane. How in the heck does hating life and being miserable lead to success?! I mean, no pain no gain, obviously. But that just means one has to work hard to achieve their goals, not suffer. Ultimately, happiness is the key to success, not vice versa. Just doing what I love suffices to make me the happiest person alive. Asian parents typically do whatever they can to ensure an economically stable future for their kids, even if that means sacrificing their relationship… It’s sad. Those who are compelled like that are just missing out on so much of life :(.</p>
<p>That’s probably true, but still a whole lot of examples come to mind… George Washington, Theodore Roosevelt, Walt Disney… Maybe not all of them had miserable childhoods, but I do think as general rule you wouldn’t want to be one of the “great” people of history.</p>
<p>@Grisam-- I was confused too when she said $300,000-- supposedly her daughter is going to be a surgeon-- she went to columbia university. but $300,000 is a lot
but ■■■■, she writes that number on the board every ****ing day -_-</p>
She’s probably distraught that she’s a teacher, hates her job, and thinks that she should have a profession that makes more money.</p>