<p>Im a Canadian Psychology major (math minor) at a small school in texas. I am looking to pursue a Clinical Psychology degree at a Ivy league school (particularly Columbia). I notice that Columbia does not particularly have a clinical program... I think. The listed PhD programs for psychology dont include Clinical... but the Teachers College at Columbia has Clinical. What does this mean?? Is it still Columbia/Ivy league?? Can I be a Psychotherapist with this degree or just a researcher?? Is the Teachers College just what Columbia calls the grad school program??? The websites on this are relatively unclear.
Any point in the right direction would be greatly appreciated! </p>
<p>Anyone? Any information would help!! </p>
<p>TC is not Columbia. It’s a separate institution. Oddly, upon completion of degree requirements at TC, Columbia awards the degree. TC is a hugh step down from Columbia in terms of quality.</p>
<p>Penn would be a much better choice.</p>
<p>That’s not true…the Teacher’s College is also a faculty of the University meaning its part of Columbia (just like Barnard is) </p>
<p>Yes, Teachers College is a graduate school of Columbia University and is the only graduate school of Columbia that offers a degree in clinical psych (among other degrees)–and that degree is of course a Columbia degree, nothing “odd” about it. Yes “Teachers College” is a confusing name, since it’s a grad school, not an undergraduate college, and since it offers areas of study far beyond classroom teaching, but the name is just an historical artifact–it’s a very old and venerable institution. Pay no attention to rhg3rd, who has previously expressed some equally misguided views about the structure of the University (perhaps he or she is an insecure Columbia College student who hates the idea that anyone other than a Columbia College student can lay claim to the name “Columbia”) . Since no other part of Columbia University offers a clinical psych program, it is absurd to claim the TC program is a “step down”–a “step down” from what? If you want a Columbia graduate degree in clinical psych, you get it at Teachers College.</p>
<p>Neither TC nor Barnard are part of Columbia University. They are both affiliated institutions like Union Theological Seminary and JTS. </p>
<p>According to USNWR Grad Schools Teacher’s College is ranked #63 in psychology, even behind Rutgers:</p>
<p><a href=“http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-humanities-schools/psychology-rankings/page+3”>http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-humanities-schools/psychology-rankings/page+3</a></p>
<p>whereas Columbia is ranked 14th and Penn 12th. Yet, Teachers College is an institution with over 5000 students with 500 psychology graduates per year. <a href=“College Navigator - Teachers College at Columbia University”>College Navigator - Teachers College at Columbia University;
<p>TC is a hugh step down from any Ivy or flagship state university and NYU in psychology. Canadian OP would be much better off at McGill or Toronto over TC.</p>
<p>Columbia University (CU) has a system whereby it awards degrees to students who have completed courses of study under a “faculty” of the University. Both the Teachers College and Barnard faculties fall under that designation - thus students who complete those programs receive their degrees from Columbia University. There are 15 faculties in all. Students who graduate from any of those programs end up with a single degree, issued by CU. Conversely, it is not possible for a student to earn a different, non-CU degree from those programs.</p>
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<p>See: <a href=“http://www.columbia.edu/cu/vpaa/handbook/organization.html”>Faculty Handbook;
<p>The Theological Seminaries are NOT CU faculties. Rather, they are separate colleges which award their own degrees to their own students. They also happen to participate in joint degree programs with Columbia, whereby the students can combine studies so that they earn two degrees. Student who wish to participate in the dual degree programs need to apply to and be accepted to both schools. </p>
<p>JTS program described: </p>
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<a href=“http://news.columbia.edu/oncampus/2537”>http://news.columbia.edu/oncampus/2537</a></p>
<p>(Note: there is also a separate JTS/Barnard dual degree program, whereby would earn the CU degree via Barnard rather than GS.)</p>
<p>As far as I can tell, the Union program is a combination Bachelors/Masters degree.</p>
<p>There are many different joint degree programs that students can pursue, some within two separate schools under the CU umbrella, and some involving a CU school and an independent institution. I don’t know where to find a master lit of them all – but here’s a link to a page that explains the process for setting up a new one:
<a href=“http://dp.vpaa.columbia.edu/new-degree-programs/new-joint-degree-program”>http://dp.vpaa.columbia.edu/new-degree-programs/new-joint-degree-program</a></p>
<p>^Nothing new here. Columbia treats BC and TC as if they were faculties of CU for the purpose of awarding degrees to the students of affiliated institutions. These are still sovereign and separate educational institutions, and their individual faculty members are NOT faculty members at CU. (The exception being one math, one physics and one astronomy/physics professor hold joint BC and CU status because Barnard previously had no academic departments in math and physics.) Indeed, BC, TC and UTS faculty are not employed by CU and cannot live in CU owned housing due to lack of affiliation.</p>
<p>ID cards make institutional affiliation clear. <a href=“http://www.tc.columbia.edu/cardservices/index.asp?Id=The+University+Card&Info=The+University+Card”>http://www.tc.columbia.edu/cardservices/index.asp?Id=The+University+Card&Info=The+University+Card</a></p>
<p>@calmom What’s in your wallet?</p>
<p>Actually, CU has ultimate control of tenure of Barnard faculty. See:
<a href=“http://www.columbia.edu/cu/vpaa/docs/Barnard_Tenure_Guidelines.pdf”>http://www.columbia.edu/cu/vpaa/docs/Barnard_Tenure_Guidelines.pdf</a></p>
<p>That is not true of TC. </p>