<p>""The death of one man is a tragedy. The death of millions is a statistic." is one I like by Stalin."</p>
<p>creepy...</p>
<p>nah, just kidding.</p>
<p>I also agree 100% with Northstarmom. You should be true to yourself and use the quote if is your favorite.</p>
<p>Is there any ubber-conservative non-religious college inthe country? I'd think you'd be lost looking for something like that.</p>
<p>Also, there is a part to being true to yourself. Your resume may list a million things about you, there may be zillion thoughts in your brain, but there is a time and place for all of them to be shared. </p>
<p>Unless you build a strong, persuasive arguement to back up those words <a href="%5BU%5Dstrong%20enough%20that%20they'd%20forget%20it%20was%20from%20Hitler%5B/U%5D">I</a>*, then I'd say fine use it. But if you really can back that up and that quote is meant to stand alone, then I'd say no, on your application is not the place.</p>
<p>How would you defend that as your favorite quote?</p>
<p>In other words, if you want to help your application, the "favorite quote" IMO has to be something that is defensible, and something that you show that you can defend, not just something that happens to be your (seemingly arbitrary) favorite.</p>
<p>IMO it would be difficult to defend persuasively any heavyhanded, unnuanced, simplistic "all-positive" or "all-negative" opinion about the role of religion in history. Also, if I were reading your essay, I would expect you to demonstrate some basic, unbiased familiarity with the vast literature on this topic. Otherwise, you would be giving me the impression that it is more important to you to have the satisfaction of expressing a viscerally felt opinion than it is to analyze and understand the complex issues pertaining to that opinion.</p>
<p>You should, IMO, also face the reality that, whether one likes it or not, favorably quoting Hitler does give rise to the question as to what extent you would go on to endorse Hitler's policies. I would expect you to display an awareness of, and sensitivity to, this issue as well.</p>
<p>If you are willing and able to do as I suggest, then you might be able to succeed with your quote. If, on the other hand, you simply put the quote "out there" as a sort of an "in your face, this is how I feel", I would be skeptical. I would not see that as representative of a proper attitude for the unbiased, open-minded intellectual inquiry that I would want at my college.</p>
<p>I think that the admissions counsellor will a) laugh at your essay, then reject you, or b) Get offended and reject you...</p>
<p>I'm leaning towards b though. Can you imagine if the admissions counsellor was Jewish? Oh look, I see that the person ADMIRES HITLER's view on religion. Ya, that Hitler sure did have some good views on religion! How brave of him to admit to us that he thinks the most meaningful thing ever said was a comment made by HITLER!</p>
<p>""The death of one man is a tragedy. The death of millions is a statistic." is one I like by Stalin.</p>
<p>creepy..."</p>
<p>Hehe
Yea, I sort of agree. Though I like it because I think there's a lot of 'hidden' merit to it. For example, if you listened to the speeches after the terrorist attacks on the world trade center there was one rabbi who gave a similar message. I thought it was a powerful message... Though, yes considering the person who said it, it is definately creepy.</p>
<p>In another thread, rahulkghosh, you asked if putting down your dream job as "World Chancellor" and admiring Adolf Hitler. Though you received fewer replies to the following thread then this one, I would think you would already have garnered the fact that most people have an aversion to positive outlooks on Adolf Hitler. </p>
<p>The excerpt from your blog was also illuminating.</p>
<p>Please do stop being a troll.</p>
<p>wow...i was going to say that perhaps this was just a trick to stir up controversy--a joke just to see what ppl would say. but after reading that izzyj, it's just a bit...disheartening. </p>
<p>and rather weird...</p>
<p>Not everything that Hitler said necessarily makes a bad quote. For example, Hitler said "Words build bridges into unexplored regions. ". The guy wasn't all bad. He was charismatic, able to inspire people, dogs liked him, small children (except for the ones he exterminated) loved him like a favorite uncle. Some other Hitler quotes are below. Pick out the ones that sound as if somebody sane said them, and which ones sounds as if Hitler said them. Incidently, isn't it time that we stop the Hitler bashing? Hasn't the guy suffered enough?</p>
<p>Anyone who sees and paints a sky green and fields blue ought to be sterilized. </p>
<p>Chamberlain seemed such a nice old gentleman that I thought I would give him my autograph. </p>
<p>Generals think war should be waged like the tourneys of the Middle Ages. I have no use for knights; I need revolutionaries. </p>
<p>How fortunate for leaders that men do not think. </p>
<p>Strength lies not in defence but in attack. </p>
<p>Success is the sole earthly judge of right and wrong. </p>
<p>The broad masses of a population are more amenable to the appeal of rhetoric than to any other force. </p>
<p>The great masses of the people will more easily fall victims to a big lie than to a small one. </p>
<p>The great strength of the totalitarian state is that it forces those who fear it to imitate it. </p>
<p>The leader of genius must have the ability to make different opponents appear as if they belonged to one category. </p>
<p>The sportive, knightly battle awakens the best human characteristics. It doesn't separate, but unites the combatants in understanding and respect. He also helps to connect the countries in the spirit of peace. That's why the Olympic Flame should never die. </p>
<p>The victor will never be asked if he told the truth. </p>
<p>There is a road to freedom. Its milestones are Obedience, Endeavor, Honesty, Order, Cleanliness, Sobriety, Truthfulness, Sacrifice, and love of the Fatherland. </p>
<p>Universal education is the most corroding and disintegrating poison that liberalism has ever invented for its own destruction. </p>
<p>What good fortune for governments that the people do not think. </p>
<p>What luck for rulers, that men do not think. </p>
<p>When an opponent declares, "I will not come over to your side," I calmly say, "Your child belongs to us already... What are you? You will pass on. Your descendants, however, now stand in the new camp. In a short time they will know nothing else but this new community." </p>
<p>Who says I am not under the special protection of God?</p>
<p>"Incidently, isn't it time that we stop the Hitler bashing? Hasn't the guy suffered enough?"</p>
<p>Classy... No.</p>
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The guy wasn't all bad. He was charismatic, able to inspire people, dogs liked him, small children (except for the ones he exterminated) loved him like a favorite uncle.
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Does this somehow compensate for the fact that he was a racist and ethnocentrist and that he killed 13 million people, not counting the massive military and civilian casualties caused by his war?</p>
<p>Some of you people aren't real big on sarcasm are you. I was just joking around and offering some more quotes. However, I think there is a point of logic going back to Socrates that it is a fallacy to judge an argument wrong because of who says it. I'm sure that there are quotes from Hitler that the OP could use, but it would still be a very, very bad idea to use a quote from Hitler, or Mussolini, or Ted Bundy. More to the point, I wonder why the OP chose a quote (from anybody) that attacked a group of people instead of a quote that was more inspirational.</p>
<p>Hm... interesting.</p>
<p>I agree dufus, I think using any sort of negativity in your apps is bad... Say what you like versus what you dislike, what you want in life versus what you don't want, etc. etc.</p>
<p>Wow. Well, I am a Jew, and would I get offended if someone quoted Hitler....probably. It's not that the guy didnt have some interesting things to say, but all the interesting things in the world don't make up for the mass extermination, sorry. Especially if you are coupling Hitler with a quote that is also offensive to Christians. Good job, you've managed to offend two of the most prevalent religions among admissions counselors.<br>
Even the fact that you are here asking tells me that you have your own doubts. So, if you really want to get in, then don't use the quote, its simply not worth the risk. You can be different, you can be unique, but wait until you get in to do that. And for those who are telling you if they reject you, its not the place for you, I disagree. One person who spends 20 minutes on your application can not possibly know how the next four years will play out.
Now for the rest of this interesting thread, I have to say that criticizing religion is a fine line. Also, for those worried about coming off as Nazis, just think: there is no problem with disliking a religion, the problem is with disliking people because they members of that religion. Yes, I understand it is hard to differentiate the two, but you have to, because one is philosophy and the other is prejudice. For the person who said "yeah but dislike jews and you're a Nazi", its simply not like that. You're right, Jews are over-sensitive to these matters, because of centuries of persecution, but as long as you do it in a rational and clearly unprejudicial way, I don't see a problem.<br>
Either way, the bottom line is don't use the quote. It's offensive, off-putting, and its not even that good. Find something else, that is just as much about you, but less about criticizing someone else, even if its just to get into a college.</p>
<p>My vote: Don't do it! You never know how sensitive unknown people are. And colleges are looking for diversity, so quoting someone who wanted "URM's" destroyed might just...go against...their principles?</p>
<p>Name three people who have personally influenced your life and your way of looking at the world.</p>
<p>uh, Hitler, Stalin, and that guy in the Silence of the Lambs movie.</p>
<p>hey, you forgot satan!</p>
<p>Neither of the following quotes should be used in admissions essays, although the P. T. Barnum might work for business majors.</p>
<p>Hitler quote: "What good fortune for governments that the people do not think."</p>
<p>P. T. Barnum quote: "Nobody ever went broke by underestimating the intelligence of the American public."</p>
<p>Wow... You've just combined the two most potentially offensive things possible* into a single quotation which you included in your college application... Well done. That should raise your chances.</p>
<p>(*Quoting Adolf Hitler, probably THE most hated figure of the century; a racist dictator responsible for the 2nd World War and a massive genocide; and criticizing the most expansive religion which has the most followers in the West, which most of the college faculty are probably part of.)
While you're at it, you should say that you're part of the KKK, one of your idols is Stalin and you have a fetish for killing people.</p>
<p>What are you, drunk?</p>