terrible gpa/class rank chances

<p>32 act (36 Math, 35 sci, 28 english(25 with essay), 28 Reading)
Sat II Math 2 : 780
Sat II Physics: 730
I have bad scores on SAT so I wont post them but hopefully that will change on saturday.
very low gpa but has been increasing every semester
my first year gpa was just over 1
my second year gpa was just over 2
my third year gpa was 3.5
and right now I have a 4.0
overall right now is about 2.7 W</p>

<p>very low class rank(think bottom half)</p>

<p>Activities:
wrestling freshman and junior year
40 hour a week job</p>

<p>I have(or have had) the following AP's
Calc BC: 5
Physics : 5
Computer Science: 5
Government & Politics: 4
Comparitive Government: 3 (I thought my class would prepare me for this, I was wrong)
Stats: In progress
Chem: In progress
Psych: In progress</p>

<p>BTW I'm a Caucasian male so that probably doesn't help me any. But I am an immigrant from Belarus so maybe that will help a little. And I want to go study computer science.</p>

<p>I applied to:
Missouri(in-state, should be auto-in):
UIUC:
Minnesota:
Wisconsin:
MIT:
Caltech:
UC Berkeley:</p>

<p>You pretty much have no chance at MIT or Caltech unless somehow you can justify a D average (perhaps you had personal problems?) I may not be an admission officer, but the pure mass of SUPER qualified applicants wouldn't make me want to pick you. </p>

<p>Berkeley is unlikely to pick you as well; you have tons going against you already in addition to the fact that you're OOS.</p>

<p>your probably right but Ive had alot of people tell me that a positive trend in grades over time looks good to some schools and I couldnt stand wondering what could have happened if I had applied.</p>

<p>Chances are fair everywhere depending how college admission look at GPA; bottom 50% probably will get you auto rejected from Berk, MIT, and CIT (unless you have some incredible hook that is not listed)</p>

<p>Missouri(in-state, should be auto-in): low Match
UIUC: Reach
Minnesota: MAtch
Wisconsin: reach
MIT: High REach
Caltech:High Reach
UC Berkeley: High Reach</p>

<p>whats the difference between match and reach (approximate percentages would be nice)</p>

<p>this is the reason that the college board had to audit the AP program...How did you end up in all of those AP courses with the fresh/soph grades that you earned????????? You have no idea how other students in other parts of the country have to "jump through hoops" just to be allowed into AP courses, even after earning very good grades.....You definitely need more safeties and hopefully your essays can explain your weaknesses early on....Good luck!</p>

<p>never realized getting into ap classes was hard for people, pretty much anyone can get into them at my school.</p>

<p>btw there is no good reason for the bad grades my freshman/sophmore year, its just I knew all the stuff and wouldnt do homework, which was worth ~80% of the grade. Im taking harder classes now and it makes me get a better grade. :/</p>

<p>It seems like you became very motivated the last two years or so. My suggestion would be if you want to go to a top school to keep up the motivation, go to a state school for one or two years, keep your gpa up in college, then transfer.</p>

<p>Keep in mind I'm just a high school senior, so I probably know very little about this stuff!</p>

<p>Also, regarding "getting into" AP classes, my school system does a mix of placing into AP and open enrollment in AP classes. When you're registering for classes, you are placed into classes based on previous test scores and schedules (regular, honors, seminar, or AP). Then, if you feel like you should be in an AP class, but only placed into an honors class, then your parents fill out a request to transfer into an AP class, which is automatically accepted. And I find that placing students purely based on test scores and previous schedules is not a good method. My junior year, I "placed" into Honors Physics, even though I scored in the 99 percentile in the previous state standardized science tests I had taken. Their rationale was that I was in honors chem this year, so I should be in honors physics next year. I transferred to AP and got an A in the class and a 4 on the exam (bad day...oh well).</p>

<p>Ill give you the most optimistic chances/realistic I can;</p>

<p>Missouri(in-state, should be auto-in): Match (Since it's in-state)
UIUC: Reject
Minnesota: MAtch
Wisconsin: reach
MIT: REJECT
Caltech:REJECT</p>

<p>Reasons: MIT, Caltech, and UIUC are all competitive to the death, and since your OOS for UIUC, where htey normally got 2400's and 4.0 Valedictorians applying, you have no chance because your out of state. If you were instate I would label that a reach. MIT, 0 chance because they usually only accept ppl in the top 10% of their class, if not valedictorian. Caltech no because your Math and physics scores are too low for a school in which everyone has perfect 800's on every possible math-related SAT II.</p>

<p>The others you have a good chance however I'd say.
UC Berkeley: High Reach</p>

<p>really no chance at UIUC?
didnt think it was that competitive.</p>

<p>*facepalm
probably should have taken SAT II earlier than october since I havent had any physics or math since may :( but Im not expecting to get into caltech anyway</p>

<p>Missouri(in-state, should be auto-in): match b/c instate
UIUC:idk where this is
Minnesota:match
Wisconsin:reach
MIT:reject
Caltech:reject
UC Berkeley:reject</p>

<p>do u have a legit-ish reason for your grades?
i mean, idk</p>

<p>UIUC has a top five in the nation CS program, they have pretty much no one outside the top 25% of their high school class in the program.</p>

<p>MIT, caltech, UCB...REJECT</p>

<p>Im pretty sure I got the point, Im not gonna get into mit, caltech or ucb... could I maybe get some chances on minnesota, uiuc, and uw-madison?</p>

<p>minnesota is reject and same as uw madison. No way will you get into those schools.</p>

<p>darn..all these schools are treating AP classes like theyre some kind of famed rank</p>

<p>in our school, you get into every ap class u select and our average ap score for most exams are 4-5</p>

<p>then again, we are hunter</p>

<p>minnesota gave me a golden nominee application(no essay, no fee, and scholarship consideration), so I thought it meant I pretty much automatically get in :/ didnt at all think I would be a reject there...</p>

<p>don't listen to them. Just apply where you want to go and hope for the best.</p>

<p>^ Agree w/ Sheed.</p>

<p>You're ACT score is good, and I think the upward trend looks good as well. </p>

<p>Chances threads are just that...you're CHANCES. Why not apply? (Assuming app. fee/time isn't a huge issue). Just don't get your hopes up...No one should. Hope for the best, expect the worst.</p>