Terrorism and Safety in NY

<p>lol@terrorism, and what the bush administration has done to this country.</p>

<p>As far as muggings, etc. goes: use common sense and you will most likely be fine. As in, don't go walking in dark alleys alone at night, etc. The area really isn't bad. </p>

<p>And terrorist attacks... you know, they COULD HAPPEN ANYWHERE. Before September 11, people weren't exactly expecting one in NYC. Who's to say the next one won't be Philly or Boston or Chicago or San Fransisco or wherever else? Don't let such little fears hold you back.</p>

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Before September 11, people weren't exactly expecting one in NYC.

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<p>really? that would be pretty stupid/naive considering the WTC was attacked by terrorists in 1993. Of course noone EXPECTS terrorist attacks anywhere but it was always a tangible threat in NYC, we just weren't as worried since the Clinton administration was, for the most part, getting the job done in terms of foiling terrorist plots rather than going on vacation and ignoring reports blatantly stating that a terrorist attack might happen in the near future. </p>

<p>In the past 6+ years I don't think bush has been blamed enough for allowing sept 11 to happen and in this primary season i feel that giuliani wasn't blamed enough for putting the emergency command center in the WTC even though it had already been a target.</p>

<p>Ok i'm done with my rant....wth is this thread about? lol</p>

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we just weren't as worried since the Clinton administration was, for the most part, getting the job done in terms of foiling terrorist plots rather than going on vacation and ignoring reports blatantly stating that a terrorist attack might happen in the near future.

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<p>You realize you make yourself sound juvenile when you go on these sorts of "rants"?</p>

<p>Which is funny, because he poses as a high and mighty adult on this forum.</p>

<p>I modify my post: People weren't expecting a terrorist attack in NYC the way they are now. There have been bombings in other cities, too, but other cities don't have the same "OMG IF YOU GO HERE YOU'RE GONNA GET KILLED BY TERRORISTS" reputation that NYC seems to have (at least in the mind of the OP's teacher). My point is... you're about as safe in NYC as you are in other cities.</p>

<p>i am 18 and i am scared of it...i have had many relatives you have had cancer....my aunt had luckemia...a couple of my other aunts have had breast cancer...my grandfather has prostate cancer and the list goes on......that stiff is scary sometimes leading to a terrible and slow death.</p>

<p>I have had several tumors removed, although non-malegnant, still scary....so if you are arogant enough not to fear stuff like cancer then i applaud u super man</p>

<p>"i am 18 and i am scared of it...i have had many relatives you have had cancer....my aunt had luckemia...a couple of my other aunts have had breast cancer...my grandfather has prostate cancer and the list goes on......that stiff is scary sometimes leading to a terrible and slow death.</p>

<p>I have had several tumors removed, although non-malegnant, still scary....so if you are arogant enough not to fear stuff like cancer then i applaud u super man"</p>

<p>you have a family history and that would increase your likelihood of getting cencer later on in life; if you've had tumors already then perhaps worry. But again statistically there are very very few 18 year olds who have any chance of getting cancer imminently, noone is saying it isn't scary or life threatening, but when you're 18 and aren't having tumors it would be silly to worry.</p>

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i am 18 and i am scared of it...i have had many relatives you have had cancer....my aunt had luckemia...a couple of my other aunts have had breast cancer...my grandfather has prostate cancer and the list goes on......that stiff is scary sometimes leading to a terrible and slow death.</p>

<p>I have had several tumors removed, although non-malegnant, still scary....so if you are arogant enough not to fear stuff like cancer then i applaud u super man

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<p>You've had tumors yourself and have a family history. You justifiably fear cancer, but do you really think most 18 year olds are worried about getting cancer tomorrow?</p>

<p>Well i am also scared of another form of terrorism....the college shootings...those really scare me. THis is rediculous, we go to get an education (and have fun on the way) not to be shot at. Colleges should reduce their stuipid SAT and GPA requirments in exchange for proper psychiatric evalutaitons of candidates.</p>

<p>Why should they reduce their requirements? How would that help anyone? I understand why some people may think that psychiatric evaluations might help reduce these disasters, but think about the time and the expense that would be involved in analyzing all of the admissions candidates. It would be impossible. I'm sure admission committees try to do their best to find people who are prepared for college life, but their information is limited to what is asked on the application. Schools are not interested in knowing a student's reputation in high school for being a "loner" or a bit strange, simply because most of these students deserve the chance to succeed in college in ways that they could not in high school. The best way to limit these tragedies is to enhance campus security and offer help to students.</p>

<p>^very well said,</p>

<p>just to add to that Steven Kazmierczak, seemed highly normal to the naked eye and everyone around him even his girlfriend, thought he was ok, which should prove that even if there were these psychiatric tests there's nothing to suggest that they'd be accurate. it would be such a vague, useless, imprecise waste. I know it's kind of depressing to hear that you can't pick out a mass murderer from a crowd, but we've just got to live with it, bad things can't be wished away. and again like terrorist attacks you're highly highly highly unlike to be shot at a college, what 40/10,000,000 in college were shot this year? far less in previous years? i fancy my chances.</p>

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Colleges should reduce their stuipid SAT and GPA requirments in exchange for proper psychiatric evalutaitons of candidates.

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<p>If they did that, I think half of my Wallach suite freshman year would have been rejected. We had a girl who would slit her wrists. We had another girl who was confused with her sexuality and was on meds and always depressed. And we had a guy who almost went postal anytime something minor set him off.</p>

<p>thanks, Godfatherbob</p>

<p>Having lived through September 11 in downtown Brooklyn at the school where I work, I can tell you that it was definitely the worst day of my life. That's probably true for most New Yorkers. And the feeling of fear stayed with me and probably with most of us for a long time. In fact, I still don't like to hear fire truck sirens or see low-flying planes. But I think we have gotten a perspective on the situation. We need to live our lives, and get on with it. Random acts of violence happen everywhere. We certainly have been hearing about far too many shootings on college campuses in all parts of this country. Believe me, as a parent with a daughter in college, that is way more terrifying than living in NYC. But I can't deny her the right to live her life. I can't lock her or anyone in a bullet and bomb proof room forever just because of my fears, realistic or not. New York is a wonderful city full of vibrancy and excitement. Muggings do happen. Accidents do happen. September 11th definitely did happen. But I wouldn't want to live anywhere else, because my life also happens and it is what it is because I live in New York. I am proud of that and I am proud that my daughter wants to come back to New York after she does whatever she is on the trail of doing. Apply to Columbia, AnnonAnnay. If you get in, and my hopes are with you, come visit and see for yourself. If you love it, and/or can imagine yourself living there for four years, then come. New York is a safe and wonderful city, for the most part. You just have to figure out what "for the most part" means to you.</p>

<p>that was a GREAT post franglish. </p>

<p>i just watched that movie "World Trade Center," and while I think it was too long and borderline-cheesy at times, I must say that I get it so much more than I did when I was 11 years old watching the footage on a TV in my NJ public school. my parents didn't turn on the TV for days after 9/11, so i went on in my little bubble of naive 7th-grade ignorance. i don't think i will ever be able to even come close to comprehending what it was like near ground zero, but bit by bit i am starting to understand.</p>

<p>That last sentence of the post just...rang true. Thanks for adding your perspective--it is so much more reassuring than some of the inane quibbles in this thread.</p>

<p>I don't go to Columbia but I live in the suburbs of NY....</p>

<p>sure, terrorism is scary to think about. I remember exactly where I was when I heard about 9/11....5th grade, my mom took me out of school. My dad was on the GW bridge on his way to work when the planes hit, and my mom was FREAKING OUT. Had he not forgotten his glasses at home and been late, he would have been on the West Side Highway, or possibly even near his office (near MSqG) when it happened. I have friends in the city and a lot of friends' parents who work there.
so yeah, it's scary when you think about something like that happening again, but why think about it all the time? why should that take over your life? </p>

<p>I think it's stupid to let the fear of terrorism influence your life... there is nothing you could really do to prevent it, so why should it be a factor when making decisions? By doing so, you are helping terrorists succeed. That is exactly what they want---to instill fear. And by letting something completely unpredictable, like 9/11, effect your decisions, you are letting terrorists control your life. </p>

<p>Do what you want. Don't let terrorism be a factor.</p>