<p>Penn State>Texas and Texas Tech</p>
<p>Thanks TT, you did us a big favor by beating UT. I think UT would have won out otherwise. I know TT is going to lose to either Ok St or OU and make a spot for us in the national title. Appreciate it.</p>
<p>"I know TT is going to lose to either Ok St or OU"</p>
<p>I sure hope so..</p>
<p>TT really surprised me, I thought they were grossly overrated, and I even bet that UT would beat them by 14 points...</p>
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<p>This is the type of non-sensical bull$hit that fans will say. These players bust their ass for their teams and their schools and then the first time something goes bad the fans will throw them under the bus. Well f@#$ you. Texas doesn't need you as a fan.</p>
<p>Gideon dropped an int..it happens (hell he's a freshman). BJ Johnson and Roy Williams dropped 3 consecutive passes in the endzone during a bowl game which cost them the game and they are (damn good) wide receivers. The fact is that Tech could have been up by a lot more had Britton (WR) not dropped an easy catch in the endzone and had they not missed a FG. Dropped passes happen and the fact is that Tech still didn't have the win until the CB made a sloppy non-tackle vs Crabtree and the other safety (not Gideon) took a bad angle to make the tackle and essentially took himself out of the play. I guess you should hate them all, but nobody should care because you aren't a real fan.</p>
<p>As for the game, it went down exactly as I expected....including the near INT and the crazy TD at the end. Crazy stuff happens in night games, and the craziest things happen in Lubbock.</p>
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"Bradford>Tebow>Crabtree>McCoy"
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<p>Well, it's hard to compare players, much less those who play different positions. Crabtree obviously has the best pro-potential. He is probably one of the 3 best college wide receiver I have ever seen alongside Randy Moss and Keyshawn Johnston. </p>
<p>Bradford is a good QB, but is also in a good system...what we are seeing from him is not much different than what we've seen from OU QBs in the past (Huepel, White, etc) .</p>
<p>What McCoy has done is really above and beyond any passer I have ever seen in college (maybe since Flutie) . He is completing his passes at an extrordinary rate and is doing so in a so-so college system with "decent" but not great weapons around him...that's not even mentioning the fact that he bulked up and improved his scrambling ability by leaps and bounds.</p>
<p>As for Tebow, he is a one of a kind player. He has accomplished the most of any of the QBs, and I think he has good pro potential, but he has never been "on fire" like Colt has been this season.</p>
<p>To the Penn State fan, I doubt yall will even make it to the title game if yall go undefeated, which yall probably will with your cupcake schedule. If Tech loses to OSU or OU and Texas gets to the Big 12 title and wins it, i highly doubt BCS would put them below a Penn State team who beat only 1 decent team all year.</p>
<p>And i agree with VectorWaga. Blake Gideon is still the man.</p>
<p>Rofl; VecorVega. I was only mad/***<em>ed off at the time because the ball was right there floating like a feather.
*sighs</em></p>
<p>Oh well. Texas Tech will lose to OSU or OU, but if not...:(</p>
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Penn State>Texas and Texas Tech
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<p>That is a joke, right? </p>
<p>IF Penn State makes it to the championship game, they are either going to be slaughtered by Florida, Alabama, Oklahoma, Texas, Texas Tech or OSU. </p>
<p>IF they make it to the championship and the slaughter occurs, it will just be one more nail in the coffin of the "BCS Ranking System"</p>
<p>There should be a playoff system - Even Barack Obama thinks so, and we all know, he's the ultimate authority on everything!;)</p>
<p>You're joking, right? </p>
<p>Penn State beat Oregon State by 31. The same team that beat USC. We also beat Ohio State in Columbus. </p>
<p>Florida- lost to Ole Miss....enough said
Alabama-probably going to win the SEC and play in the title.</p>
<p>The Big 12 south is too busy beating up on each other, so it really doesn't matter how damn good you think your teams are playing. Nobody is going to escape without a loss and Penn State is going to stay in front of all of them. There is no expert that says that a one loss will jump Penn State as long as Penn State wins out. You are dreaming if you think a Big 12 team is making it to the title game. I think you must have been joking, but thought I would reply as if you weren't.</p>
<p>nope, no joke</p>
<p>Penn State beat (non-ranked) Oregon State who beat perennially over-rated USC, who may lose to Cal this weekend. Oregon State has also been beaten by Stanford this year, for heaven's sake. Penn State BARELY beat OSU who was trounced by USC. OSU, along with Penn State has a cream puff schedule which will not be overlooked by the pollsters, nor the computer which calculates BCS standings by strength of schedule - why TT passed up Penn State this week.</p>
<p>Florida, after the dumb loss to Mississippi has been playing inspired and vicious football, beating up on highly ranked SEC opponents - they will play top ranked Alabama in the SEC championship and which ever one of those two deserving teams win will go to the championship game.</p>
<p>The Big 12 (south in particular) has been recognized as the most competitive conference this year by everyone (but Nittany Lion fans), and if none of the games coming up (TT v OSU, TT v OU, OSU v OU) are complete blowouts, which lessen the index scores, the BCS computer rankings will more than likely send the champion of the Big 12 to the BCS championship game due to strenght of schedule wins - each of the 1 loss teams have their 1 loss against teams that are ranked in the top 10 of all the polls.</p>
<p>Don't argue with me, argue with the computer.</p>
<p>Now, all this will be moot if Texas Tech wins out (which I don't think will happen). If they do, then they will go on to play either Alabama or Florida.</p>
<p>I would not count on Texas Tech losing to OSU this weekend. Games in Lubbock are very energized for Texas Tech.</p>
<p>Yep, that's the one I think they can win. </p>
<p>The one I'm not counting on is the Texas Tech vrs Oklahoma in Norman, with Oklahoma fighting for their life coming off an easy game vrs A&M and a bye week.</p>
<p>With a Tech win over OSU, but a loss to OU, then OU beating OSU, it will set up a 3 way tie between OU, TTU and UT, to be decided by a complicated tie break method.</p>
<p>What kind of tie break method? Offensive yards I hope!</p>
<p>ESPN said on Saturday that the tie break method for the Big 12 was for the team with the highest ranking in the BCS poll gets to go to the Championship Game. It doesn't seem that complicated.</p>
<p>This is why I thought it was complicated:</p>
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Tiebreaker Procedures </p>
<p>Divisional Champion: The (eligible) team with the best winning-percentage of all divisional members in its eight conference games is declared the divisional champion and representative to the Dr Pepper Big 12 Conference Football Championship Game. A team ineligible under NCAA or Big 12 rules for postseason (bowl) competition shall not compete in the Championship Game. </p>
<p>Divisional Tiebreakers: The following procedure will determine the representative from each division in the event of a tie: </p>
<p>If two teams are tied, the winner of the game between the two tied teams shall be the representative
If three or more teams are tied, steps 1 through 7 will be followed until a determination is made. If only two teams remain tied after any step, the winner of the game between the two tied teams shall be the representative. </p>
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<li>The records of the three teams will be compared against each other </li>
<li>The records of the three teams will be compared within their division </li>
<li>The records of the three teams will be compared against the next highest placed teams in their division in order of fi nish (4, 5 and 6) </li>
<li>The records of the three teams will be compared against all common conference opponents; </li>
<li>The highest ranked team in the first Bowl Championship Series Poll following the completion of Big 12 regular season conference play shall be the representative </li>
<li>The team with the best overall winning percentage [excluding exempted games] shall be the representative </li>
<li>The representative will be chosen by draw.
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<p>So if it is just the highest ranking BCS poll sitter, they go down to step #5.</p>
<p>In that case, the way these next few games end up will most likely determine who is highest. So, expect to see Texas run the score up unmercifully against Baylor and A&M so that they get the "style points". And expect the others to try to do the same, although it will be tougher because those are against much tougher opponents. </p>
<p>It certainly makes for an interesting situation and will make for some exciting games.</p>
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<p>We all know that just because Team A beats Team B, and Team B beats Team C, that does not mean that Team A will beat Team C (or that the scores of the 1st two games have any tangible impact on the score of the 3rd). </p>
<p>However, since you brought up the blowout, I think I should mention that Texas Tech just beat Oklahoma State by 36.</p>
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What kind of tie break method? Offensive yards I hope!
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<p>In that case, Texas Tech would most likely win as they lead Texas by close to 1000 yards. OU is currently 2nd in the Big 12 in yardage (3rd in nation in yardage per game). Even Oklahoma State and Missouri (big 12 north) are ahead of Texas in yardage.</p>
<p>That's not to say UT doesn't have an incredible offense...it's just that a lot of teams in the Big 12 have good offenses.</p>
<p>I personally think OU would likely jump Texas if they beat Tech. </p>
<p>On a side note, I was thinking of a real crazy scenario. What if two big 12 teams finished #1 and #2 in the nation. In order for this to happen, either Florida or Alabama would need to be upset prior to the SEC Championship game and then that team would need to upset the other in the SEC Championship game.</p>
<p>Under that scenario, if Texas Tech and Texas win out (i expect Texas to win out regardless), then they could play one another again in the championship game. If OU and Texas win out, then we could see a rematch of that game. I really don't believe they could push a non-SEC team (ie USC or Penn St) ahead of a one loss OU or Texas. If Alabama was upset in regular season and then beat Florida it is possible they could jump up but it is likely that the loss would be too late in the season for them to pass OU/Texas.</p>
<p>^^Doubtful for any Big 12 rematch. Somehow the football media is going to select an SEC team to play in the MNC. I think Florida will win out and especially beat Bama in the SEC title game. Furthermore, they didn't put a rematch between Michigan and tOSU.</p>
<p>I agree with JHB. I think Florida will win out and find itself in the championship game of the BCS. The media will put the SEC champ in the title game. That conference has done well so I guess I can't complain too much. </p>
<p>I also think Oklahoma will beat Texas Tech next week. What a shoot out that is going to be.</p>