textbooks

<p>I'm pretty sure it's "Chemistry: A Molecular Approach", By: Nivaldo Tro from the MasteringChemistry Series. That's the book that the solution manual is for. I wasn't able to find it by the ISBN UVA gave either. </p>

<p>The ISBN is: 0131000659</p>

<p>It's going for ~$115 used on Amazon, and the "International Edition" is going for ~$60 on ebay.</p>

<p>The international edition usually has this printed in bold red: "NOT FOR USE (or was it not for SALE?) IN THE US" or smth along that line. So is it okay for us to use that version in UVA??</p>

<p>From what I've seen online, the international version of the Chem 141 Book has a light blue cover that says "International Version" at the top. I've read descriptions that say International Version/Student Version and comments that say the International Version is paperback and does not include the "Chemistry Masters" online thingy.</p>

<p>Canuck, did you call up the UVa bookstore? I couldn't find it by the ISBN they gave but I have seen your ISBN several times. Is your ISBN confirmed? I'm just thinking of the possibility that there is a newer version that your ISBN.</p>

<p>No, it's not confirmed. I will try and call the Bookstore tomorrow, but since there is only one version of that textbook, I'd bet that it is the one UVA wants. </p>

<p>As to the international versions, personally, I'd prefer to be certain that I get the online materials, that it is a more durable hard cover (although paperback would be lighter), and that the author gets payed for it. They say "Not for Sale in the US or Canada", but I think they are legal for use. Thinking of the resale value, I doubt you could sell them for much.</p>

<p>They had better be legal for use. I loathe to see the day when we shall have been so deprived of our civil liberties that the State may forbid us from reading certain books just to enforce a print version of a DVD coding region system.</p>

<p>Hmmm or I could sell them back again in my own country.. Or maybe sell to an incoming junior next year.. Hahahah.. But anyway, it's CRAZY, some classes have SOOO many books and it's all marked "REQ"! </p>

<p>I've had zero experience on eBay/Amazon, but you guys are saying that it's where we should start? So if I buy books online, the current owners will send it to me? How much is local postage, cheap enough? And will they arrive in time for fall classes? Must I start looking RIGHT NOW for them to arrive in time? (Kinda swamped with packing so many things and moving to a different country in a week... Heh.)</p>

<p>THANK YOU you guys :)</p>

<p>Addendum:</p>

<p>I tried looking for a book for COMM180 class, I could find this: 0-07-310597-X but not this: 0-07-350769-5. What's the difference between the two? Is it for the clicker or the online CD or something? Also, is 7th Edition okay for COMM180 instead of the 8th? Thanks again! :)</p>

<p>I think some vendors refuse to ship outside the US or Canada anyway, at least for American companies. But on a slightly different note, has anyone tried facebook marketplace?</p>

<p>For ebay and amazon marketplace the owners ship it to you. For most, postage is reasonable, but if it is coming from Asia, it may be expensive. To order, you'll probably need a credit/check card with a US address. </p>

<p>I haven't tried Facebook marketplace.</p>

<p>Haha no if I order from Amazon then I can just ask them to ship to my UVA dorm right? (How often does stuff go missing if you send items to dorms? I live in a boarding school here and people can take other people's mails VERY easily.)</p>

<p>I need a US credit card? Noooooooo.. I won't have it till fall at least. :(</p>

<p>The international versions are not always the same. I had a friend with an international physics book and the problems all had different values and the page numbers were off a bit.<br>
Also, authors don't get paid for international versions. That is why they are banned in the US/Canada, Galoisien. It's to protect the rights of the author, not yours. Why should you be able to buy a book that the author doesn't receive payment for to protect your "civil liberties" (which, by the way, do not cover purchases of others' property) when you're totally screwing over the author?</p>

<p>As for Facebook/onthegrounds.com/hoohasit/craigslist, sometimes you can get a much better deal than on amazon/ebay. It's in person usually, cash and carry, and friendlier. I've gotten 2 books off of ebay, maybe 6-7 off amazon, 1 off Facebook, 2 through emails, and a clicker off here (CC), and my preference by far is through students. They're not looking for profit, just less of a loss, and are trying to get rid of their books. Facebook hasn't worked very well the last few months though, lots of bugs</p>

<p>Also, getting it shipped to your dorm isn't a bad idea, especially since you have to travel a long ways. However, take note that the mailrooms will be very, very busy the first week or two with boxes of people's stuff, books, care packages, etc. But, it's relatively foolproof and the people are really nice, so I wouldn't worry about your stuff getting lost. I had a book be delayed (wrote the wrong room # on the outside, so they had to search deeper) by a few days, but they called me as soon as it was found and offered to drop it off for me. So, no worries!</p>

<p>Ah I see, thanks.. But when must we get all the books by? Second week of classes? Shouldn't be the first right, since that's when people add and drop classes...</p>

<p>If some of my classes aren't in the book directory, does that mean that either a) there is no book for that class or b) the professor will get us that information at a later date? </p>

<p>Specifically Econ 201 section 6 with Mirman. :&lt;/p>

<p>It could mean a, b, or a&B, or a-or-b. I had no books listed for a class once and it meant I showed up the first day and they gave me a list. Another was that everything was online. Look for emails the week before school and keep an ear open in class. Some professors haven't chosen a book, some won't use a book, etc. It's just hard to know, sorry :/</p>

<p>Thanks though, at least now I know what I can expect and that I don't have to worry about it just yet :)</p>

<p>Just called UVa bookstore to get a clarification on my Stat book. Amazon had the 2009 version, same ISBN, but I wanted to check to see if that would be okay.</p>

<p>No help. They said the only approved versions are sold by them. Wouldn't say what version they sell. Said buy your books the old fashioned way, when you get here!
Now I'm worried about saving a few bucks on Amazon and then showing up with the wrong stuff. Clearly I have a little too much respect for authority.</p>

<p>Has anyone ever had a problem buying the identical ISBN on Amazon or Half.com?</p>

<p>If it's the same ISBN, you're fine.</p>

<p>I called the Bookstore about the CHEM 141/151 textbook where the ISBN from the Bookstore and Amazon don't match. They said that they really don't know why, but since there is only one edition of the book, it is the same. </p>

<p>They only reason they could speculate to as a difference is whether or not the Amazon book includes the online tutorials (MasteringChemistry). But, they said all new books should include a code for the online materials, so the difference didn't really make sense. </p>

<p>If you buy a used book, they said that the code for online materials wont work, but you can buy a code online ($45). </p>

<p>Do students actually use the online resources, is it required by profs, or is it just a waste of money?</p>

<p>Okay, so let me clarify.. You guys recommend us to wait until the first week of school to get our textbooks? If we are not getting it from the UVA Bookstore (i.e. Amazon, Facebook, emails), would it be too late?</p>

<p>I would not wait until the first week of school to order off Amazon. Shipping will cost you a fortune. Honestly, Amazon/ebay is going to be your cheapest, safest route for first semester. I bought all mine at the bookstore first semester, just because it's easy. I don't suggest that, but I do suggest not hassling with a million options. Get your books off those sites and you'll save $100-200, which is plenty for first semester. Save the hassles for later.<br>
The point about the first week of school was: don't sweat it if you can't get a book delivered until then, or your professor tells you that week that you need other books, or you change classes. But if you have classes you know for sure you'll take, Amazon.com it now. If you're still on the fence about others, wait it out. You can always buy the book from the bookstore, order a cheaper version online, then return the bookstore one (SAVE ALL OF YOUR RECEIPTS!). Also, for some classes they don't order enough books, they run out, and your professor gives you an extra week or two.
Don't worry about textbooks. They're going to be the least of your problems come school time. 10 bucks says half of you don't even open half of your books.</p>

<p>shoebox10, that's very helpful! Thanks a lot! :D</p>

<p>Anyway, does anyone know what *UNDERSTANDING BUSINESS 0-07-350769-5 for COMM180 is?? I tried searching for it but there's no result... The diff with the main book is just that there's an asterisk in front of the title, lol.</p>