<p>hmm.. ok.. honestly.. how do you write a good essay.. using these fig terms.. analysis? ok, so 3 essays in 2 hours.. its going to be an argumentative essay, and 2 stylistic/rhetorical essays.. do we time ourselves or do we have an allotted time for each essay?</p>
<p>How much time should I spend on each essay?</p>
<p>How long should it be.. any ideas?</p>
<p>For MC, I've done tests from real, Cliff's and Barron's</p>
<p>I think Cliffs approximate the real test pretty well, in that I've been getting similar scores on both. Barrons was extremely hard in the beginning, but then when I did more tests, I've been better; however I think barrons is still harder though.</p>
<p>But then, difficulty cannot be measured, since it differs from person to person.</p>
<p>I think learning grammar at this point is a waste of time, TBH.</p>
<p>Well grammar is probably useful for SAT, but for AP English... nah</p>
<p>Yeah, who would ever think knowing grammar would be usefull on an English Language exam?</p>
<p>does anyone know of any books or events in history that are good to know to use for the one persuasive essay included in the free response section?</p>
<p>Hahaha, AP English language used to be about grammar! My teacher gave us an old MC section (from way long ago), and it looked like a scholarly mixture of the SAT Critical Reading and Writing Sections! It was bizare, the words they used to expect you to know! As a rule of thumb, in class, we thought the word we knew the least of the 5 choices was the answer (and several times, it was)!</p>
<p>Anyway, it's SO much easier now!</p>
<p>Faithful, you're responsible for pacing yourself throughout the essay portion. I think proctors are supposed to give recommended announcements that you ought to be moving onto your next essay. These are just recommendations though. At least feel comforted that the proctors aren't going to run up to you b/c their AP English senses are tingling, flip over to the next page of your booklet, and label it with the next number. No! You have freedom to take as long as you feel necessary. Just as a guideline though, you might want to divide your time evenly across all 3 essays. This way, you'll say as much as you can in all three in the given time.</p>
<p>Is anyone else bad at managing their essay time? Does anyone have any hints/suggestions?</p>
<p>Does anyone have good MC strategies? (I don't feel like looking through the entire thread, b/c I really should get back to reading my review book).</p>
<p>I think I can definitely get a 5 b/c I usually only get 1 or 2 wrong per passage on the MC and I always score 9s on my essays. But, if I freeze and don't manage my time well..... I may not get that 5 after all (even if my teacher is pretty sure I'll get a 5).</p>
<p>Haha, oh and is anyone going to a college that doesn't even give credit for AP English Language? I am! Princeton, like most colleges wants freshmen to learn 'expository writing' their way. I guess I'll just take the exam and do my best for my own personal satisfaction. Is anyone else in my boat? Or do I sail alone?</p>
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<p>None in particular, some may be better to know than others, but it is a crap shoot really, it depends on what question you have.</p>
<p>It is best to use whta you know best. My teacher had us read a book called Dead Man Walking, about the death penalty. Now we know a ton of stuff about that issue, and it would be very foolish not to use our knowledge of the subject in an essay if it asked for evidence from readings.</p>
<p>Basically, if you know a bunch about a controversial subject, that is what you want to use.</p>
<p>for the essays, my teacher told our class that it is usually a rheotircal analysis and 2 argument papers?</p>
<p>blah.. i thought it was rhetoric, style, then argument? </p>
<p>someone that knows.. is that how teh essay is..?</p>
<p>^^ that's wut i've been told.</p>
<p>argument always comes last</p>
<p>APDoolittle: My college doesn't give credit or placement either, but I'm going in tomorrow morning and trying to cancel it last minute.</p>
<p>Really, Emmery? Hmmm... well, unless you feel there's no way you can score higher than a 2, I guess you should cancel it. But, if you think you can score a 3 or higher, take it just to see how you compare w/ college students (and collegebound peers). It's rewarding to know you're on par w/ those at a higher level. If you want you're money back, then go ahead. Either way, good luck to you! :)</p>
<p>-Jon</p>
<p>apdoolittle.. </p>
<p>how do you only get 1 or 2 wrong on the mc?!?! are you just naturally brilliant or have you been practicinga all year?</p>
<p>Haha... I guess (w/o any guilt for sounded conceited) it's a combination of both (with more emphasis on the former). LOL, I guess I just have a knack for dissecting purposes, argument, and for recognizing different modes/types of rhetoric.</p>
<p>Keep in mind, that I only get 1 or 2 wrong PER PASSAGE. So that usually ends up being anywhere from like 5 - 12 sometimes (depending on the number of passages, the content, and how I budget my time).</p>
<p>I'm actually a little worried that I won't budget my time on the MC or Essays. Does any one have any advice?</p>
<p>ohhh.. ok ok.. yaaa, that makes more sense.. lolol.. i was like uh.. 1-2 out of 55 questions.. wow, but still 1-2 per passage is still pretty awesome..</p>
<p>well, they say 15 minutes per passage on the mc, and around 40 minutes for each essay.. so i dunno.. pace yourself.. lol.. ya, that prolly doesnt help..</p>
<p>i feel oh so very screwed right now.. blah..</p>
<p>No, that actually does help. Thanks. I have to keep that in mind!</p>
<p>Haha... and who's "they" anyway? The College Board?</p>
<p>Lol, have a little faith.... faithful101! I can see someone scored a 1 on AP Faith b/c they're currently in Faith101 ;) lol</p>
<p>Just trust in your abilities and you'll be fine!</p>
<p>-Jon ;)</p>
<p>As trivial as it may seem, I think by writing the time when you are suppose to finish a passage (or an essay) ON the test booklet will help you budget your time a lot. Generally I prefer spending around 1 minute per question on the MC.. but then my score isn't that good so I'll be quiet now...</p>
<p>Haha Prometheus... the earlier half of your post was really helpful!! Haha, I don't know what happened at the end there, but I think I'll try your advice. Thanks, and good luck! ;)</p>
<p>-Jon</p>
<p>Guys, I'm getting anywhere between 8-12 wrong on the MC. What would I need on the essays to get a 5?</p>