<p>why is the bar higher for them?
do they group all asians (chinese,japanese,korean,vietnamese, philipino, indian) under "asian"?</p>
<p>its not hate, its just more competitive for asians. its unfair to apoint but in the end you just have to live with it (im asian). </p>
<p>if there was no AA, colleges would be 90% asian/white</p>
<p>yea hate is alittle too far</p>
<p>My theory is that the majority (white) never takes the brunt of affirmative action. They just pass it directly to the Asians.</p>
<p>Granny, can you prove that theory? Any data to back that ridiculous generalization up?</p>
<p>There was this study which claimed URMs had an admissions advantage that was the equivalent to several hundred extra points on the SAT, that Asians had suffered the equivalent of a hundred point deduction, and nothing happened to whites.</p>
<p>If that’s true, then AA often works by increasing number of URMs to the detriment of Asians, with little effect on whites.</p>
<p>I would like to see this study. Does it consider economic situation, ec’s, sports etc?</p>
<p>Also, what schools were used in the study? I know the ivy’s have a huge percentage that are asian wheras the average state school has a significantly lower percentage. I don’t deny that asians aren’t screwed under the aa system, but its not like all white people are cashing in on some kind of underground cartel.</p>
<p>Colleges want to reflect the diversity found in the US…so they try to mirror the population % of each race in their colleges. Hence, why blacks/hispanics/native americans are URM (their % in a uni is less than in the US population) and asians are ORM.</p>
<p>Asians are over-represented in colleges. Some top schools are up to 20-25% asian, while the U.S. population percentage is like 5%. So it’s tough…</p>
<p>what percent of top schools are white o.o?</p>
<p><a href=“http://opr.princeton.edu/faculty/Tje/EspenshadeSSQPtII.pdf[/url]”>http://opr.princeton.edu/faculty/Tje/EspenshadeSSQPtII.pdf</a></p>
<p>“Data for the 1997 entering class indicate that eliminating affirmative action would reduce acceptance rates for African-American and Hispanic applicants by as much as one-half to two-thirds and have an equivalent impact on the proportion of underrepresented minority students in the admitted class. White applicants would benefit very little by removing racial and ethnic preferences; the white acceptance rate would increase by roughly 0.5 percentage points. Asian applicants would gain the most. They would occupy four out of every five seats created by accepting fewer African-American and Hispanic students. The acceptance rate for Asian applicants would rise by one-third from nearly 18 percent to more than 23 percent.”</p>
<p>I loled when I read “the asian situation”.</p>
<p>lol thank you thank you ^^</p>
<p>i find this very interesting
“White applicants would benefit very little by removing racial and ethnic preferences”</p>
<p>Haaa. I feel the pressure too. I am asian (always have been) and it seems like all the other asian people I know are spectacular in everything they do, so I need to be extremely better than I am now.</p>
<p>Asians are underrepresented at some colleges and treated as URMs at them. Te issue with the top colleges is that they get huge numbers of qualified applications from Asian Americans and Asians from abroad and quota Asians as they do all groups. The 15 or so percent allotted to Asians at many top colleges makes them very well represented.</p>
<p>Yes, they do quota Asians as they do all groups. The difference is that for Asians it works against them instead of for them. They may be well represented at top colleges but it was still a lot harder for them to get accepted than it was for URMs and even for whites.</p>
<p>I’m looking forward to a day when admission to the top schools is race-blind, but I don’t think that day will be any time soon.</p>
<p>Hurrah for being only half-Asian and having a Caucasian last name.</p>
<p>And personally I think lumping all Asians together is indecent at best. If they want a race that struggles and faces challenges, they should look towards SE Asian races: Filipinos have, I believe, the highest high school dropout rate of any race. And yet, when my friend’s sister, a Filipino with a perfect GPA and a 2390 applied to all 8 Ivy League schools, she was accepted by 2, arguably because she could only identify herself as Asian. I think it attests to the idea that colleges aren’t truly looking for overachieving URMs because they are rare, but rather because they want some color variation around campus (and less people who look like “nerds” (which are often identified, by the ignorant public, as Asians)). It sounds extremely cynical but that’s my belief.</p>
<p>And I’m certainly not biased towards Filipinos; I myself am half-Chinese, so obviously I will not gain an edge in admissions regardless of whether my ethnicity is specified or not.</p>
<p>I believe that under AA, colleges have to admit a certain percentage of each ethnic minority. Asians are notoriously competitive and they battle it out among themselves for those few slots at top colleges. Since the pool is already filled with qualified or over-qualified applicants, one is duking it out with other extremely high-caliber students.</p>
<p>This is a generalization, so take it with a grain of salt. This is basically the gist of why AA is disadvantageous towards Asians.</p>
<p>i wish it wouldnt be disadvantageous to any race 
the thing that seems peculiar is that AA is “disadvantageous towards Asians” but not as much to whites. it kind of befuddles me :/</p>