The Big Ten Expansion

<p>The time-zone situation would annoy some UTexas fans who follow the games on TV. If the experience of baseball’s Texas Rangers is any guide, an incentive for UTexas membership in the PAC-10 might be a guarantee to Texas that all Longhorn road games on the west coast would be daylight games (or at least, 5PM start CST). It wasn’t that long ago that the Texas Rangers regularly complained about being the only CST team in the American League west. The Rangers loudly (but ultimately unsuccessfully) lobbied to be the AL team that needed to move (for balance) to the NL. Alas, it was the Milwaukee Brewers, another CST team, that moved to the NL. There was speculation that the Houston Astros nixed a possible Rangers’ move.</p>

<p>UNL has been an AAU member since 1909.
Missouri since 1908.</p>

<p>Texas in 1929.
Texas A&M in 2001.</p>

<p>Tell you what UCB, the Pac 10 can take UNL and Missou and the Big 10 will take Texas and TAMU.</p>

<p>^^^^They certainly would fit in better there that’s for sure.</p>

<p>^ :slight_smile: Just saying. Colorado and Nebraska or Mizzou would be cool with me.</p>

<p>Chicago gonna add sports? Mildcats would prob wanna add the Rice Owls for a fellow private sacrificial lamb…or the Big Ten can try and make their logo incorporate a 13.</p>

<p>The PAC-10 might take Colorado, but you are really, really delusional if you think Nebraska or Missouri will become part of the PAC-10.</p>

<p>Again, Texas will probably not go into the Big Ten unless A&M comes along also (a 14-team scenario, or Big Ten ejects a current school); the rest of the Big-12 will fight like hell to keep Texas in, unless Texas can bring another school out in a sweetheart deal to soften opposition in the Texas state capitol. The Big Ten will first and foremost look at one-school scenarios, which as of now include Missouri or Nebraska.</p>

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<p>As you well know Wisconsin and Ill are among this country’s premier research institutions and as you should know are far superior academically to BC and Wake especially as graduate institutions. Georgia Tech is one dimensional. As pointed out elsewhere in this thread none of the three ACC schools mentioned belong to the Association of American Universities nor does NC State, FSU, Miami or VT. Every member of the Big 10 belongs to the AAU as does Missouri, Rutgers. Pitt, Syracuse, Texas, and Nebraska. This is not to say that Wake, Tech, and BC don’t do a excellent job at the undergraduate level, and have more selective admission’s policies at the undergraduate level than Madison and UICU.</p>

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<p>UNL doesn’t make the academic/research cut for the B10 and even Mizzou is borderline.</p>

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<p>ESPN (or any other network) is unlikely to give the huge TV contracts given to the SEC or B10 (esp. considering the Pac10’s timezone diff.).</p>

<p>Economics totally play in the B10’s favor - aside from the B10’s large ABC/ESPN contract, the BTN is already in place to significantly increase the revenue stream via cable carriage fees in Texas.</p>

<p>And really, the B10’s big media markets are Chicago, Philly, Detroit, Minneapolis/St. Paul, Pittsburgh, Indianapolis, Milwaukee, Cleveland (and Cincy to a lesser extent), etc.</p>

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<p>Pitt, 'Cuse or Rutgers would leave the BE in a heartbeat for the B10 (go to any Pitt or RU sports board, they are all clammering about how they would be the better school for the B10).</p>

<p>Any reservation that Pitt fans have for BB has nothing to do w/ the level of competition (over the past decade, the B10 has sent more schools to the Final Four and the Championship game than the BE and it’s not even close), but has to do w/ Pitt being shut off from its recruiting base of NYC; but really, the administrators making the decision could give a hoot.</p>

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<p>Another possibility is the B10 getting UT and the Pac10 getting CU and TAMU.</p>

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<p>Really, what is up w/ you and NU?</p>

<p>Over the past decade, NU FB has around a .500 (or better) record against the majority of B10 schools (aside from dOSU, PSU and UM); and that’s w/ actually having academic standards for recruits, unlike the Teddies who continue to not meet expectations and falter down the stretch.</p>

<p>Instead of worrying about NU, you should worry about the job Harbaugh is doing on the recruiting front at Stanford.</p>

<p>^ Heh, heh…love gettin ur Mildcat hairs to stand up on end… ;)</p>

<p>Berkeley did well recruiting this year…two 5 star recruits and Cal coach named Rivals.com recruiter of the year. 2010 class was ranked #11. We’ll be fine against Harbaugh…he’ll prob be headed to Michigan in a couple years anyway.</p>

<p>^ Nah, just shows that you have a strange obsession w/ NU for some reason.</p>

<p>And the Teddies have always recruited well ever since they ditched any academic standards for recruits; that still hasn’t prevented them from consistently underperforming.</p>

<p>^ David Schwimmer is my idol. :rolleyes:</p>

<p>Grad rates under Tedford are improving…it’s been a focus for him.
I don’t know what you mean by “underperforming”. Granted they haven’t yet gotten to the Rose Bowl but they’ve had winning seasons for the past 7 years and their recent bowl record is 5-2. </p>

<p>The one thing you can hang your hat on though is beating Cal in the Rose Bowl back in 1949…your last bowl win.</p>

<p>I’m staying out of this one. Lately everyone beats Michigan. :-(</p>

<p>“Pitt, 'Cuse or Rutgers would leave the BE in a heartbeat for the B10 (go to any Pitt or RU sports board, they are all clammering about how they would be the better school for the B10).”</p>

<p>Talk about ‘Pitt got invited to Big Ten’ rumor 2 weeks ago…=.="</p>

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<p>The most profitable scenario for Big Ten would be adding only TEXAS if not ND.</p>

<p>The best scenario for Big Ten going to 14 would be adding PITT, TEXAS & TAMU.
However, I am willing to replace TAMU with schools such as Syracuse & Rutgers.</p>

<p>The worst scenario for Big Ten would be adding only either Mizzou or Nebraska imho.</p>

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<p>The most feasible scenario for Pac-10 expansion would be (drum rolls please)
adding Colorado & BYU!! Yes, BYU > Utah imho!!</p>

<p>The best scenario for Pac-10 in the long run would be to boot AU, ASU, OSU, OU & UW and replace them with UCSD, UCI, UCSB, UCD & CSU-Fresno or Long Beach (especially from an academically standpoint). If Cal (so-so fball team) can drop $321 million just to renovate its stadium, they should also upgrade other UC campuses from Div-II to Div-I sports.</p>

<p>USC has four signed 5 stars and one committed but unsigned five star, Seantrel Henderson</p>

<p>^^ yeah, but him and others will most likely transfer when Kiffin gets fired by SC next year!! Norm Chow will agree with me! Just kidding… :P</p>

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The stadium renovation is financed completely from private donations…no public monies are being used.</p>

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Are you kidding? UDub, OSU, UO and Cal are the original founding members of the Pacific Coast Conference back in 1915. Much rather play some geographic variety than a bunch of UC schools. I’m sure U$C and 'furd would feel the same way.</p>

<p>I think Colorado, BYU, and/or Utah are the most likely candidates to join the Pac-10.</p>

<p>^^I meant to type WSU instead of UDub (UW)!! The rest (UO, OSU, UA, ASU), founding or not… I really don’t care (from MY personally viewpoint). As a prestigious UCB grad, you should be able to relate to my thinking. Sorry…</p>

<p>On second thought, didn’t you guys booted Idaho & Montana back in the days, too? Founding or not, it’s the 21st century - Survival of the Fittest (best selected with the combination of great academics and athletics) in order to form the like of THE mighty conference such as the BIG TEN. :P</p>

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<p>No way BYU ever gets an invite to the Pac10 - religious school, doesn’t play on Sundays, not exactly a research school.</p>

<p>Even Utah likely will never get an invite - just not enough eyeballs in the State of Utah to make any sense financially.</p>

<p>Basically, the only 3 realistic candidates for the Pac10 (somewhat close geographically, large TV market, research school) are UT, CU and A&M.</p>

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<p>Oh, please - UCB’s record the past 5 yrs:</p>

<p>8-5
9-4
7-6
10-3
8-4</p>

<p>Aside from the 10-3 season, the others range from avg. to good and below most pre-season expectations over those seasons (considering their recruiting rankings from 2008-2004; 34th, 22nd, 19th, 9th, 23rd).</p>

<p>And oh, Jerry Mathers is my idol.</p>

<p>*. If Cal (so-so fball team) can drop $321 million just to renovate its stadium, they should also upgrade other UC campuses from Div-II to Div-I sports. *</p>

<p>The only Division II UC is San Diego. All the others (except for Santa Cruz, which is Division III) are Division I and in the Big West Conference.</p>