<p>Michigan and georgetown shoudl definitely move up to tier 2</p>
<p>-1 –
Amherst College
California Institute of Technology
Columbia University
Dartmouth College
Duke University
Harvard University
Massachusetts Inst. of Technology
Princeton University
Stanford University
Yale University
Williams College</p>
<ul>
<li><p>2-
Brown University
Cornell University
Harvey Mudd College
Middlebury College
Northwestern University
Pomona College
Swarthmore College
University of Chicago
University of California—Berkeley
University of Pennsylvania
Washington University in St. Louis
Wellesley College</p></li>
<li><p>3-
Bowdoin College
Carleton College
Claremont McKenna College
Davidson College
Emory University
Georgetown University
Haverford College
Johns Hopkins University
Rice University
Univ. of California—Los Angeles
University of Virginia
Vanderbilt University
Washington University in St. Louis
Wesleyan University</p></li>
<li><p>4 -
Brandeis University
Carnegie Mellon University
Colgate University
College of William and Mary
Georgetown University
New York University
Tufts University
University of Michigan—Ann Arbor
U. of North Carolina—Chapel Hill
University of Notre Dame
Univ. of Southern California
Vassar College
Wake Forest University</p></li>
</ul>
<p>i'm sure i'll get heat for my LAC placement and other minor things...but i think the decisions to many objections will invariably require smaller and smaller tiers until you ultimately degenerate the system into a virtual us news list.</p>
<p>still interesting, though.</p>
<p>michigan and a couple of others should be bumped to 3....this is really absurd to call these schools 3rd and 4th tier...theyre all really subsections of tier 1</p>
<p>Haha - Swarthmore is definitely in tier 1. Someone recently averaged he rankings of US News' rankings from 1975 to 2006, and Amherst, Williams, and Swarthmore all averaged to #2. Sorry.</p>
<p>Overall, this thread just sucks... so stupid. Just like US News rankings..</p>
<p>well..</p>
<p>A++ : Harvard, Yale, Princeton, MIT, Stanford Amherst, Swarthmore, Williams</p>
<p>A+ :Brown, Cal Tech, Columbia, Dartmouth, Penn, Cornell, Duke</p>
<p>A : Berkeley, Chicago, Northwestern, Bowdoin, Johns Hopkins, Rice, Washington University in St.Louis, Pomona, Carelton, Wesleyan, Middlebury, Wellesley </p>
<p>A- : Michigan, Virginia, Grinnell, Haverford, Oberlin, Smith, Georgetown, NotreDame, Vanderbilt, Harveymudd </p>
<p>A-/B+ : UCLA, Wisconsin, UNC, Barnard, BC, Carnegie Mellon, Emory, Davidson, Vassar, Tufts, Colgate, Colby, Bryn Mawr, Reed</p>
<p>B+ : William&Mary, Texas, UCSD, Georgia Tech, NYU, USC, Wakeforest, Brandeis, Mount Holyoke, Bard, Conneticut College, Hamilton,</p>
<p>These lists are solely based on name cred right? </p>
<p>Pathetic.</p>
<p>there's no need to get defensive about your own school...swarthmore is fantastic, but certainly is not a whole league ahead of brown, penn, and other such places.</p>
<p>interesting idea. but it's very subjective. i mean cornell brown upenn swathmore are borderline. and gtown johns hopkins and bowdoin are go into tier three or tier two.
your tiers can be schools rank 1 through 10 or 5 through 15. it's just not possible to seperate schools this good.
plus these schools are all really different. strnghts in diff areas</p>
<p>Since i dont agree with any of the above lists:</p>
<p>Tier 1
Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Stanford
MIT
Caltech</p>
<p>Tier 2
Columbia
Penn
Duke
Dartmouth
Amherst
Williams
Cornell
Brown
Chicago
Northwestern
Berkley</p>
<p>Tier 3
Swarthmore
WashU
Rice
Michigan
UVA
Georgetown
Wellesley
Johns Hopkins</p>
<p>Tier 4
Middlebury
Carleton
Bowoin
Pomona
Emory
Vanderbilt
Carnegie Mellon
UCLA
Tufts</p>
<p>Tier 5
All the LACs on US News from around 9-16
UNC
USC
NYU
William and Mary
Brandeis
BC
plus a few others</p>
<p>I know im favoring universities over LACs but (while i concede that LACs offer a great education) most of them are compeletly unknown. I go to a highly competitve school that sends 99%+ to college and most of them have proabbly only heard of about 3-5 of the top LACs.</p>
<p>it's stupid to make lists based on prestige and recognition when lists are usually what lead to a school being prestigious and well-known...they should be a combination of empirical data and general impression. basically usnews+common sense but in tiers</p>
<p>i think you need to put brown in the best category and gtown and tufts to tier 2 and move vanderbilt to tier 3</p>
<p>It's a good list, but you're always going to find people that get upset because their college isn't regarded highly enough to be ranked with the best.</p>
<p>Exactly, I want to see Bryn Mawr in the top group along with Harvard and Princeton!!!</p>
<p>Here are the tiers (National Unis only) as I suggested and the average SAT score for each school. It is not an exact progression. </p>
<p>BEST OF THE BEST (13 schools): Caltech (1520), Harvard (1490), Princeton (1480), Yale (1475), MIT (1470), Duke (1465), Dartmouth (1450), Wash U (1450), Stanford (1440), Rice (1435), U Chicago (1425), Columbia (1420), U Penn (1420)</p>
<p>EXCELLENT (12 schools): Brown (1440), Northwestern (1410), Georgetown (1390), Johns Hopkins (1390), Cornell (1385), Vanderbilt (1370), Emory (1350), W&M (1350), Notre Dame (1345), UC Berkeley (1325), U Virginia (1325), UCLA (1295)</p>
<p>VERY GOOD (9 schools): Tufts (1410), Carnegie Mellon (1395), USC (1370), Brandeis (1360), Wake Forest (1340), Boston College (1335), U Michigan (1315), NYU (1310), U North Carolina (1295)</p>
<p>Tufts looks like the most obvious misplacement and Carnegie Mellon and USC could arguably also move to the second group. Boston College definitely belongs in the third group. In response to some posters’ comments, Brown should probably move up to the first group while Vanderbilt and U Michigan look appropriately placed in the second and third groups, respectively.</p>
<p>I totally agree that this, my comment included, is trivial and pretty pointless. With that said, my own pride is making me protest Vassar being called a Tier 4 school. Education-quality wise, it's among the best, and even in terms of name recognition, it probably shouldn't be that low.</p>
<p>UCSD should be tier 3</p>
<p>or tier 2 (10 char)</p>
<p>My ranking for undergrad:</p>
<p>Tier 1
Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Stanford
MIT
Caltech</p>
<p>Tier 2
Columbia
Dartmouth
Amherst
Williams
Duke
Penn
Brown
Swarthmore</p>
<p>Tier 2.5
Cornell
Northwestern
Chicago
Pomona</p>
<p>Tier 3
Cal-Berkeley
WashU
Rice
Michigan
UVA
Georgetown
Wellesley
Johns Hopkins
Middlebury
Haverford
Bowdoin</p>
<p>Tier 4
Carleton
Emory
Vanderbilt
Carnegie Mellon
UCLA
Tufts</p>
<p>Tier 5
All the LACs on US News from around 9-16
UNC
USC
NYU
William and Mary
Brandeis
BC
plus a few others</p>
<p>Hawkette I think you way over-estimate Vanderbilt.</p>