<p>DS attended TCNJ as a music education major back in 2004-2006.
He transferred to Mason Gross at Rutgers to complete undergrad. He encountered some limitations to the music experience at TCNJ and also decided he needed a bigger pond.
He graduated in Dec 2008 from Rutgers and now is a grad music performance major at Hartt in Conn.</p>
<p>I was quite disappointed that son transferred out of TCNJ. We LOVED visiting the campus, it is gorgeous. Manicured lawns, graceful brick columned buildings. Very quaint.
He made many very good friends and found the profs in general to be engaged and accomplished. I doubt he would have left but for specific issues that were important to him but probably not to many others. The students are bright but still enjoy nearby Philly and hanging out. The whole vibe of the place was great.</p>
<p>Rutgers did provide more musical challenge but I believe he was sad to leave TCNJ for many reasons.</p>
<p>As a NJerseyan who’s taught at SH and knows a bunch of kids who went to TCNJ, I’d take the latter in a second. I think the level of academics overall is higher at TCNJ.</p>
<p>That may be true, I don’t know. But, in recent years, hasn’t SH engaged in enrollment management as an effort to improve the quality of its students?</p>
<p>That could be, mom2. It was 10 years ago I taught there. At that time, the majority of the students I met tended toward apathy–basically, Mom and Dad are paying for me to be here, and now it’s party time.</p>
<p>I’ll never forget one student in my comp class who’d come in looking so tired, and he finally told me it was because it was his turn to sit under the fire alarm, and guard it from being pulled so everyone else (who cared) could sleep. Subsequent tragic events, of course, made that scenario much more chilling.</p>
<p>The few committed students I had seemed overall very unhappy with the overall tenor of the campus, and I discussed transfer with several.</p>
<p>Adding–sokkermom–if you can find a nursing program you like, go for it. They are worth their weight in gold, so your D would probably be having a different experience from the run-of-the-mill student there. Those students generally take their studies seriously.</p>
<p>^ It will come down to what she likes. (We don’t totally agree.;))</p>
<p>I really like some of the private choices, she thinks she likes the State school atmosphere.
Her only State choices are Our of State.</p>
<p>I am afraid of the big classes in some intro courses at these State schools. We are told that for undergraduate Nursing, any choice would be fine. I am just not sure. I want her to go to the best choice for her, but with some merit money the private options she has seem like a better value to me. They wouldn’t be a good value if she doesn’t like them… </p>
<p>(Unfortunately, the only private we both like has not offered any merit yet. :rolleyes:)</p>
<p>@Zoosermom-again take everything I say with a 25 year old grain of salt I was a 1st generation college student & a commuter. I drove a 73 Cutlass. Most of the girls there had brand new 1982 Monte Carlos or their equivalent that Daddy gave them for their graduation gift. There was a sense of going through the motions and academic ennui in most of my classes. I had 2 fantastic professors (1 was my Western Civ prof that I had for 2 semesters and the other was my Freshman Composition prof) but I honestly don’t remember any other instructors. </p>
<p>As for your friends feelings, I can relate. I was marching in NYC during the anti nuclear movement days and to say that the SH campus was apathetic about it would be an understatement. Students weren’t pro-nukes or anything, it just wasn’t even on their radar.</p>
<p>If your D is concerned, I’d suggest having her do an overnight visit to try & get a feel for the current student attitudes; don’t go by an old crank like me ;)</p>
<p>Yes, I agree with how Sacchi describse TCNJ.</p>
<p>I have never visited Seton Hall, but I do know a few alumni and the ones that I know are all from middle class families. None of them were “A” students in high school. In fact, I know for certain that one had a couple of Ds on their high school transcript. All of the people that I know who attended graduated and loved their time there. One person was a real fan of Seton Hall, even many years after he graduated, and he sent his son to Seton Hall. His son graduated about 2 years ago and he loved it too.</p>
I was a 1st generation college student & a commuter. I drove a 73 Cutlass. Most of the girls there had brand new 1982 Monte Carlos or their equivalent that Daddy gave them for their graduation gift. There was a sense of going through the motions and academic ennui in most of my classes. I had 2 fantastic professors (1 was my Western Civ prof that I had for 2 semesters and the other was my Freshman Composition prof) but I honestly don’t remember any other instructors. </p>