<p>This is an unbelievably worthless thread -- more unbelievably so than the AA trolls.</p>
<p>You perhaps forgot an important point, Northstarmom. Not only are 85% of Ivy <em>applicants</em> qualified, a even greater portion of the admitted students are qualified. That would include legacies, athletes, etc.</p>
<p>And here's a little provocative fact (yes, fact) for the OP. The extreme majority of the Ivy admits were also accepted to those 2nd-tiers you rave about & claim are on the edge of "surpassing" Ivies. </p>
<p>Brilliant people surpassed by the same brilliant people? </p>
<p>Yes, you're really brilliant yourself.</p>
<p>The OP is uninformed and a troll.</p>