The future of W&L?

What is the scuttlebutt on campus about changes that are likely to come down the pipe (since R.E. Lee is considered evil now)?

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Not a student, but changes are pretty unlikely to come. They’ve already started putting less focus on Lee Chapel during campus tours and also are emphasizing that they celebrate “Lee the educator, not Lee the general”. As far as change goes, that’s likely the biggest that’s to come.

There are enough alumni, many of which are big donors, that would not appreciate any drastic changes being made. I say this from an apolitical viewpoint; W&L stands to lose a lot of support and money if they make any major changes to how they portray history on campus. For that reason, I wouldn’t expect to see anything else happening in the near future.

I don’t know. The Confederate uniform is now a big white supremacist no-no according to much of the country. Easy enough to take down the portrait of Lee in uniform from the Chapel. But then you’ve got the recumbent statue


It wouldn’t surprise me if the administration wanted to ‘lead the way’ in terms of social justice, even if the majority of the alumni disagreed.

It could be a years-long process of gradual changes. After all, three years ago people thought everything was fine after the flags were removed from Lee Chapel.

My guess is that changes are very unlikely to come. Lee was responsible for the business school, the law school and their honor code, all current areas of pride at W&L. They can embrace what he did for the university as president. Their academic ‘rankings’ and reputation have not suffered at all over the past few years - maybe they’ve gotten better - so there’s no need to make any drastic changes.

Lee was not responsible for the business school, although he did begin the school of journalism and annexed the law school. I do think the school is considering how to deal with its past.

He wasn’t even there for very long!

Hopefully, applications will go down so it will be easier for my kids to get in.

Same with UVA. :slight_smile:

In 2014 W&L did apologize for a history that included owning slaves. They’ve dealt with it head on. TIme for everyone to applaud W&L for his and move on.

They have plans to call it ampersand U.

It is not just Lee that is a problem. Washington was a slave owner.

From the President’s latest statement, it’s pretty clear that they are going to wall off the back part of Lee Chapel, so that the statue of Lee is not visible from the main part of the chapel. So to view the statue you’d have to climb the stairs from the lower level.

Also pretty much certain they will remove the portrait of Lee in uniform.

He said specifically that they would not choose the option to physically separate the chapel from the crypt addition and would “make no physical changes to the building”.

Agreed on the portrait in uniform. They’d chisel his uni off the Valentine if they could.

@OCDaddy, what statement are you referring to? In his written statement he says this:

“The future we face calls us to recapture Lee’s initial vision for the chapel. Lee Chapel can yet again be, as it originally was, a graceful, unadorned place of assembly that is welcoming to all members of our community. The addition that houses the recumbent statue and Lee family crypt can remain intact and open to the public, but functionally separate from the chapel’s assembly hall.”

“Unadorned” may mean the removal of all portraits, as well as the Liberty Hall Volunteers memorial plaque. The plaque will likely go because they don’t want students “forced” to look at anything at all to do with the Confederacy.

I stand corrected. (I knew this skimming habit would become a problem.) I should have said the commission recommended making no physical changes. He seems inclined to disagree, as you correctly pointed out, though functionally separate could mean a lot of things and it may be harder to convince whatever conversation commission oversees historical sites that it’s time to start bricking up the back. Memorial plaque is definitely toast, though its relocation is more easily accomplished and with less hand-wringing. I frankly think it announces the chapel as a lost cause shrine. It’s hard to not see as you enter.

*conservation Oh I give up.

I guess they could go with a semi-permanent screen/partition of some kind rather than a full-on brick wall.

When I was there for the honor system orientation a couple nights ago, it looked like there was a curtain placed in front of the statue of Lee. That wasn’t there during the President’s welcome on the first day of orientation, however, so I’m not sure if they’re planning to make that permanent or not.