The Good, Bad and Ugly: Lessons Learned

I hate being a contrarian, but actually sports recruits did not see a fall. As was stated, schools did not suddenly stop caring about their teams- and they are aware that to field a competitive squad in the future, ignoring a recruiting cycle is not a sound strategy.

From the athlete’s perspective two things actually increased interest in applying this year. First, because college athletes were given an extra year of eligibility, many seniors are trying to wait a year to allow for these college athletes to complete this “bonus” season. Additionally, because so many high schools had their season disrupted, a PG year has become even more attractive to allow for college coaches to see them play a full season next year. Add to this, the disruption in the rules governing college recruiting, and many high school athletes see this year as a lost one.

Younger athletes- especially juniors- see the backlog in recruiting that is ahead of them, and applied to reclassify and repeat a year. Again, this maintains eligibility that would have been lost even though some schools played a shortened season- or had no season at all.

College recruiting probably won’t get back on track for at least another year, so BS will be a viable option for elite athletes with exceptional credentials again next year.

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Agreed @PaDadOf2 we saw many athletes reclass/attending prep school next year. Prep schools even loosened their own rules and some kids were allowed to reclass in their current school (which I thought was not allowed).

Athletes were driven to prep schools this cycle, possibly in higher numbers than before.

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Lack of racial diversity or economic diversity? It’s just so odd to me since even the least diverse prep around here is far more diverse than any of the LPS in the surrounding towns. Or do you mean private day schools, as opposed to BS, which would include many schools I’m not familiar with.

It is Groton. They have a special program for FA for middle class families. Those are the families who get sticker shock when applying to college.

It is going to be a tough year for underclassmen who hopped to make varsity for sure!

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Weeeellll. Most of the kids I’m talking about are going to prep schools that no one here talks about, or barely talks about. Most of those athletes I know can’t get into any of the schools people on cc are concerned with. I’m not sure how many “extra” athletes Andover or Exeter took.

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I think we will see the repeat Jr/PG phenomenon across the board. But I can see where there is no increase at these schools and they will just spill over to the rest, like you said.

I like what your wrote , more in-depth with logics.

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I have to agree Canada is really not that international / diversified when it comes to meeting boarding school’s diversification goal, however (as I digress here) the good thing about Canada is it has arguably much better public education system than US from k - 12.

My son is on WL for 3 Canadian preps…all 3 have told them they are waiting for the post-grads to move on before giving him a spot. In Canada there was no junior hockey in Ontario this year so kids who would have gone from prep to junior are pretty much taking up post grad spots until the pandemic opens up. Kids in grade 11 this year all got squeezed.

I recall being told the international students who require a lot of FA (more than 50%?) have some special college placement issues, both in the U.S. and then often in their home country (since they didn’t complete high school there). I wish I remembered the details but the short version was that even if they did well at BS, they were at a high risk of not being able to afford the U.S. colleges that admitted them. The main exceptions were students who came through programs with some link to their own country. Again, not sure of the details but for some reason, they were generally successful in getting into US colleges (and welcome at home if they returned.)

I am referring to the BS. In all the interviews and admissions videos…diversity was the theme over and over again this year.

Yes. Economic diversity is maybe even a bigger issue and growing one. It cannot be healthy campus to have such a gap in income levels between students.

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So for Canadians…in all provinces other than Quebec…you do run the risk of leaving before you complete your high school that your U.S. courses will not be recognized for a Canadian high school diploma.

However, in Quebec, high school ends in grade 11 (followed by a 2 year post-grad). Quebecers graduate, go to the U.S. and then can come back to a school like Mcgill and the only issue which courses are credited or not…difference between 3 or 4 years at University unless they get financial aid for a U.S. university.

Great point. My son would have been the 1st from his school to land at Exeter…in ages. Most kids from Canada end up at the less “known” schools but, very good schools nonetheless. Ever summer, athletes get last second calls from the smaller preps because they are missing athletes for key sports.

My son will probably go to a Canadian prep. They all have rolling admissions. He is waitlisted on 2 and just a question of waiting for “bed” to free up. Canadian waitlists are different…a waitlist in Canadian schools means acceptance subject to a bed freeing up. The probability is high you are getting in…and once that is resolved then the FA discussion begins and not before (although they know what you want to contribute…there is more negotiation).

My son is a grade 11 so a bit different. As an international, I am not sure I would have my son go through this all over again. The time and effort was crazy. We are fortunate because we good domestic options. My son wanted the U.S prep experience and new the odds were against him. What kind of disillusioned us a bit is my son gets 90s in his courses, plays 3 sports at the top level for his school and does tons of community work…and it was still not enough. There are so many wonderful and talent kids he met along the way (on Zoom calls) who are great in music or the arts…it is a shame how difficult it is for these kids to get in.

What irked us, is we heard of some kids who play one sport, get okay grades and do zilch…who did get in.

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100 % and schools pay to advertise on Niche site so there is a conflict of interest. My friends and I have also seen reviews removed by schools that complain so site is definitely not perfect.

That being said, I actually think Niche rankings have merit. We were/are part of several prep schools (five of the top 20) and surprisingly a school with just one or two rankings lower in “college prep” category seemed much easier academically to same child. The school one notch below in ranking also had much happier kids and this was reflected on the Niche as well. 100% of kids said they liked their school and where happy there! We found this to be a “happy reality” while attending. We did not apply to one BS because according to Niche, kids are not happy there. Perhaps a big mistake but based on our experiences first hand with data proving true we were not ready to ignore it even though VERY small sample sizes. Our experience is Niche rankings and the info for schools have merit. As others have said, use Niche for directional purposes, read the reviews, look at demographics and look for trends or not.

If you are interested purely in academic rigor look at a sort on Niche by “College prep” vs. overall ranking. If you are looking for schools that cater more to athletes, look at rankings through “Best schools for athletes” search. We have found the highest ranked “college prep” schools are indeed more academically rigorous than lower ranked schools.

To the Taft dad…yes, Taft kids are incredibly happy and their admissions rates are VERY low (it’s a very small school in comparison) but acceptance rate and size are not variables used to produce rankings according to Niche site.

I believe Taft admissions officers know who they are so they are not looking for the same kids PA or Exeter are looking for. They are more willing to accept at 70% on SSAT that interviews well over a 95% SSAT that does not interview as well. They tend to shy away from the homeschoolers taking calculus in 8th grade. I suspect because they value other things (extroverts, leadership, sports, etc) but purely speculating. When a school on Niche has 100% kids say they are happy there… this should say a lot about the vibe of the school! It’s obviously a healthy place.

Ignore the lists, use them…who cares but for those of us that pay attention, I have found Niche helpful. The schools like XXXX with toxic cultures tend to have very low “happiness” and “friendliness” ratings.

As a side, this has been a horrific year to start the boarding school search. Personally I love to look at ratings, user reviews from former and current students, this incredible message board and any other piece of data or commentary I can get my hands on. Should parents use rankings as the end all…of course not. However to shame someone for considering these lists as a data point seems judgmental and ignorant as well. It’s a set of data to help inform “fit” especially in times when our kids can’t shadow and get any kind of gut feel themselves.

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Good luck!

It might be fun & informative to search your prospective school’s School Profile and grade distribution.

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On the Taft website, the profile grades and info seems to be from a couple of years ago - Class of 2019. The statistics show there are a lot of A’s at Taft. So based on these stats, 39 students from the Class of 2019 earned a GPA of 95 or above during their Junior year. Just reporting, not interpreting. I love Taft - plus they serve Arethusa Farm ice cream (the BEST in CT)!

Wow. As usual, it’s great to see such a wide range of opinions here. I thought I’d chime in a little.

When making a list of schools to apply to, every candidate or parent would need to start somewhere, be it their family/social circles, middle school teachers/counselors or independent 3rd-party websites.

While no single list can be exhaustive, subjective or satisfactory for everyone, those lists are still of some value to the newbies - i.e. families that had limited or no idea about BS life and the special character of each school.

There are reasons why acronyms like HADES and GLADCHEMMS were created. All those schools boast a long history, strong academics (often with decent athletic and arts programs too), along with special programs and great college matriculations. They have been generally accepted as great choices by most parents and their kids.

Someone also created a “Hidden Gems” list for good reason. Many great schools are not part of the acronyms, but they just as good, if not better. For example, Mercersburg is obviously highly regarded here, while Blair, SAS and SGS also come to mind, along with the likes of Kent, Loomis and Taft. The bottomline is - until the ranking agencies publish a transparent methodology, parents and students around the world will never stop arguing which school is better than another.

Although my family members have graduated from two schools on the “acronym lists,” I still did a lot of my own research on many others. My rationale is - if you are going to have your child spend 4 years and $300,000 (adjusted for inflation but not counting parent donations) on a school, then you owe it to family to get all the information/advice you can get. Thankfully, we have tons of loving, unselfish parents, students and alums here (you know who you are, and here’s another big THANK YOU!), in addition to websites such as Niche, boarding School Review, and Prep Review.

Long story short - as a self-proclaimed responsible (and somewhat nerdy) parent, I consulted with many family members, as well as BS students/alums/parents. I also involved my child and worked out a list of priorities. We then created an Excel file with different weighting for each category.

  1. Culture and atmosphere/vibe: With COVID still lingering, it is hard to visit the schools. If you cannot visit, watch as many videos and attend as many webinars as possible. You can still get a general feel.

  2. Academics: We look at course tracks and AP/CL offerings at all schools. We also believe that average ACT/SAT scores are indicative of caliber of students and quality of instruction. Finally, it is important to look at college matriculations over the past few years, which are usually listed on the websites. Note that some of matriculations at top colleges are related to legacy, development or athletic recruit status. However, if you have your eyes set on a specific college, you might want to find out if a specific BS has an established pipeline to that college.

  3. Resources: We measure this metric in terms of existing physical facilities (gyms, auditoriums, etc.) of a school and its financial strength, i.e. the size of endowment per student. A school with a sizable endowment and a strong fundraising team will be in a position to offer FA packages to deserving students, hire top-flight teachers, and build new facilities.

  4. Alum/parent feedback: This is very, very important. I typically ask questions like “What did you enjoy the most and the least at XYZ School?” “What kind of impact do you think the school had on your children?”

  5. Location: Is your dream school easy to get to, or does it require two flights and a two-hour drive afterward? The student is going to make that trip several times a year, so definitely take that into consideration.

  6. Size: Size does matter, and one size does not fit all. Some kids thrive in large schools (e.g. Andover, Exeter, L’ville, etc.), while others might be better suited for smaller, closer-knit environments (e.g. SAS, SGS, Middlesex, Miss Porter’s). It is purely a personal preference.

  7. Other considerations (special programs such as athletics, arts, study-abroad opportunities, etc.)

Once we applied different weights to each category, we were able to generate the most objective (still not without biases, but at least scientific) scores for every school we considered. In the end, we decided to stay away from the two acronym schools, despite our strong ties to two of them.

I reckon that our priority list list can be be very different from yours. The above is just my humble opinion and hopefully for the benefit of those who are less familiar with BS life. Good luck in finding your dream school!

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The issue with those high grades is it sets up the kids for a world of shock when they hit university.

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We used totally unscientific methods for making a list. For one kid, she only applied to the school that had consistently won or placed highly in their division’s sailing competition. (Note the singular “school”). For another kid, we started with schools that were within 2 hours drive of another child’s college, then we looked at total endowments (we thought that was an indicator of likelihood of offering financial aid - based on CC opinion, this appears not to be true). We came up with a list of about 7 schools, visited all, crossed one off the list because it had too many columns and one off because it seemed the campus was too integrated into the town. Applied to 5 but had pretty much crossed another two off the list due to bad experiences with the AOs and/or coaches. Luckily it all worked out and both kids ended up at great places.

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