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<p>So what?I have approximately 500 hours, and IB does not limit me, it just provides me with inducement to be active and volunteer.</p>
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<p>Yeah. I speak 4 languages.</p>
<p>Not 2. As the IB Diploma dictates.
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<p>Let me state this: if u are determined and like working hard, IB is better as it is harder and pushes u more, in terms of papers and deadlines, and dont make me reiterate all the internal/external assessments and Extended Essays stuff....
What can I say? I chose 6 subjects for two years instead of 15 AP courses...
That is cuz i would not be content with merely brushing upon subjects and i wished to really delve into the nature of say english lit, history, math or chemistry (my higher levels). I wanted to challenge myself to the greatest extent possible. </p>
<p>The reason why IB kids are so psyched about it is cuz it is amazingly rewarding. If u havent experienced it, u cant tell.</p>
<p>As far as I know, you can't take TOK if you aren't in the IB. In fact, IB students that aren't working towards the diploma don't even take part in TOK. I'm just wondering how you (metdethGNR) can take it without being in the IB.</p>
<p>You can get an exemption if you make an appeal to your school's IB Coordinator in conjunction with the teacher instructing the TOK class. I had a non-IB student who was really interested in studying epistemology join the class in such a fashion.</p>
<p>But essentially the outcome of this debate is pretty fair and simple: (a) we agree that the two different tests work for different kinds of people and (b) many of us take IB/AP courses and those of us that take IB courses end up taking AP tests anyway.</p>
<p>Yeah but see, you are an exception. You have an outstanding profile (debate addict) as I saw your chances thread. What I mean is, that while some kids may take the entire IB Diploma, there are other kids that without the diploma can do equally as well or even better. They can even design themselves a tougher curriculum. Say, you can take all APs, do dual enrollment at the same time, summer workshops, more languages, more hours. All in all, you totally beat most IB kids with that. </p>
<p>However, I feel the essence of this argument is what makes it unfair. It's how the kids in the program belittle the work of the kids outside of it. AP is equally as challenging, and thus is equivalent (in GPA) as an IB Class. Just like an honors class is equivalent to PreIb. </p>
<p>And about the TOK thing, I'm very popular among my school's administrators. :)</p>
<p>Is there a significant proportion of students in the USA who use IB as a credential to enter non-US universities? (Non-US to US is more common, I am asking about the other direction only.)</p>
<p>And is there a known algorithm for the "predicted grades", or is it up to the judgement of the teachers?</p>
<p>IB predicted grades are not created so that universities can see how your teachers think you will do. They are created so that the IB can tell if something is wrong with the student's work. If a teacher predicts that a student will get a 2 in a subject and the student earns a 6, then the IB Organization will look at the student's work and check to see if the student may have cheated.</p>
<p>In reference to earlier post: “Since you people are in the Harvard forums, I’m assuming college credit for HS courses doesn’t matter much to any of you. IB definitely does look nicer than AP on transcripts, but then why do they give less credit for IB exams than AP exams at many universities?”</p>
<p>I understood the above differently. I thought that Ivy League schools don’t like to give any college credit for AP or IB. Therefore someone in the ‘Harvard Forum’ is not concerned about how many credits they will get because the schools they will be going to will make then start from scratch anyway. Does anyone know if these very selective schools give credit for AP/IB work?</p>
<p>This is an old thread, but a point that was never clarified in it should be made, in case new people look at it. The use of the predicted IB score varies a lot, depending on whether you are a student in the United States or elsewhere. In the US, most IB students also receive normal letter grades each semester, and these are the primary grades that are reported to colleges. Many don’t even receive predicted scores, and never submit them anywhere. In other countries, predicted scores play a larger role in university admission, with offers of admission conditioned on final scores within a certain number of points of the predicted score. Therefore, an international IB student applying to a US college needs to find out what grades and scores to submit, and how they will be used.</p>
<p>Although some of these AP kids get better grades, I know that we will be more prepared for college. For example, our language arts teacher is pretty much like a college professor, 5-6 timedwrites determine our semester grade. This motivates us to improve compared to the “worksheets” that AP students do… lol. Looking back at some of my earlier writing… <em>shrug</em>. IBMYP student since the 6th grade and I love it! Currently diploma candidate.</p>
<p>We do a lot more work. You try doing an Extended Essay of over 3000 words IN Spanish (a second language and no, my family is not of Hispanic descent or anything), two world lits which are about 1500 words each, two 10-15 minute MEMORIZED orals (one practice, one real for IB), and a TOK paper along with an IB chem test (which wasn’t too hard). This is just junior year.</p>
<p>I am considering doing IB but keep hearing you cannot carry on with any extra-curricular activities because of the work load. Is that true? I play soccer.</p>
<p>^ no, you DEFINITELY can, as long as you’re highly motivated to keep true to both. If you do well in both, then it shows that you can most likely handle what a university requires. Everything in life is not just about how well you do in academics. In a lot of cases, there are more important things to do in life, but doing well in both is awesome. </p>
<p>oh yea, I know you can play soccer because I did cross country…and was the captain…and the boys made it to regionals and girls to state…in Florida…(too bad boys didn’t, but our region is one the fastest in the nation, AKA “The Region of Death.” The whole boy’s team has to have an AVERAGE of around ~16:00 for a 5K…)</p>
<p>and considering my background and with IB/Cross Country, I at least made practically all A’s (just one B freshman year), not to brag, but I just want to point out that it is Definitely Doable!! On the contrary, it seems I did better in school during the cross country season…lol</p>
<p>lol, yea in some ways. Our IB program decided to do something weird and have TOK second semester Junior year and first semester Senior year. My TOK teacher last year was a total CREEPER and we learned nothing. I absolutely hated the class. everyone hated it. </p>
<p>But then, he left becuase the public school system was having major financial issues and decided to leave with his retirement intact. So the new TOK teacher (who we sort of stole from the IB program in the north part of our county :p) was really awesome and really opened up our eyes to what the core values of TOK are. It can EASILY be taught very wrong and it takes - I guess - a certain weird teacher’s personality to really have a connection with the student, ways of knowing, and areas of knowledge.</p>
<p>TOK teacher = creeper
Old TOK teacher = bad creeper
New TOK teacher = good creeper :)</p>
<p>Hey this is a little irrelevant but i think you guys can help me out. I want to do a BA in econ and im currently studying IB. I want to drop from math SL to math studies because its just way to difficult. UBC said that they dont require math since its an arts program but im unsure about other unis. HELP?!</p>
<p>I think it’s telling how there are people who gush with joy over the IB curriculum compared to those who just say “AP was hard, too!”. </p>
<p>IB is normally for the well-rounded and AP for the well-lopsided. Sure, you’ll have exceptions, but the generalization seems relatively accurate…</p>