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I see that Sour Grapes are in season this time of year... :rolleyes:</p>
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ahahahahahaha</p>
<p>@flopsy: please don't refer to some folklore/proverbial crap... it doesn't make you seem cooler and its not funny.</p>
<p>lol @ flopsy ^^|||</p>
<p>@OP:
About all those people who have worse SAT scores/GPA/study habits, if they really are worse, they won't do well at UCLA. In fact, they might drop out. If they are up to standard, they'll do well. Let college weed out the people who are truly "unworthy". Also, you have no idea what the adcom's purpose was. For example, perhaps they were trying to "mold" their incoming class this year (I believe other top20 schools do this. e.g. JHU.). Maybe they don't want a class uniformly composed of people who score highly on the SAT. Maybe they wanted some artists, musicians, scientists, mathematicians, and future politicians, and some of these just happened to be weak at academics. Maybe you just didn't fit the mold they were looking for. Don't get offended at a rejection; at the rate admissions are going, UCLA is approaching the super ultra uber high echelon of schools in selectivity, in that they could take the upper half of their applications, throw them down the stairs, pick up the first 5000, and have a very strong class.</p>
<p>if you wouldn't have gone here then why bother making them regret to rejected you... dude just admit you are jealous at the people that got in and you want to come here...</p>
<p>you know that writing the essays is suppose to display your maturity, intelligence, and talents etc etc...that's why it is adviced to people that they take the time to find something unique about themselves or to write about. Maybe your essays weren't strong, or strong enough to show how unique you are...or maybe you're not special at all. Because if they accepted all the top SAT's and GPA's, nobody would be at the clubs, nobody would be at the games...
ALSO, SAT's and GPA aren't as good estimator of people's intelligence as, let's say, AP/IB exam scores or what they can achieve with their interests/passions in certain things (EC's).</p>
<p>...but what do i know...</p>
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<p>OP, I hate to say it man, but your post make you sound very young and very naive. I have seen your posts on other boards, you railed about UCSB too didn't you? I'm really not trying to be a jerk here, but there is more than a note of desperation and an attempt to appear wiser (or more intelligent) than you perhaps are. A few years as an adult will fix that. </p>
<p>Honestly though, have you done the research? Do you seriously think that the standardized tests are consistent indicators of strong math or English abilities? Essays are very important for a number of reasons, mostly because they show maturity and writing ability much better than the standardized tests. </p>
<p>You have consistently been snotty and stuck-up in postings on this and other boards. If you carry this attitude and expect people to take you seriously, or to treat you like an adult, you're mistaken. This is not just simply blowing off steam, this is trying to discredit a system, community, and student body that you know nothing about.</p>
<p>In fact, I don't believe you know what the words quiet, peaceful, or dissent mean. You had the gull to describe your postings as such, but they are far from it. The level of insensitivity you displayed in your posts points to an arrogance, ignorance, and inexperience that we should all hope will soon be rearranged.</p>
<p>Now I know you're are probably already incensed while reading this, and you will blindly believe that I am attacking you, as you have accused others of. I am not, of course, and neither are they. We are merely trying to point out the inconsistencies and attitude adjustments that might help you succeed.</p>
<p>I am not going to even touch the ridiculous rant on the essays and outside factors. It is apparent that you have neither taken the time or energy to even attempt to think reasonably about your argument.</p>
<p>I'll end this with a little bit about me. I barely made out of high school. I had long been a top student, always in the honors program, excelling in AP classes, ect. Part way through high school though, I ended up homeless, and finally ended up staying in the basement at a friend's house. My mother, a drug addict, had disappeared. I went into the Navy, against my wishes, started going to school, and received my AS in lab science from George Washington University. I'm out of the service now (thank god), and I have been a consistent 4.0 student, but at community colleges. I have been a full time student while working 50 hours a week at a hospital to support my family and our goals. So I am applying as a junior transfers to a few schools, including UCLA. They, along with most schools, don't go by standardized tests or high school records when considering transfers. So what do they base my consideration on, you think? Should I not get a fair chance at admittance, in your humble opinion? I have worked hard and written strong essays, that don't discuss my hardships in detail by the way, and I am certain that I have shown the creative and upward drive the school is looking for.</p>
<p>OK, so this is really long winded of me. But I want you, OP, to see that you are not the only person on CC, not the only one rejected from or accepted to a good school, and you certainly don't stand alone in the universe. Come down to the ground a little; I promise we are all kind and understanding people.</p>
<p>by the way... this sign ^, is commonly used in message boards. it is not meant to annoy anyone.</p>
<p>Solid SAT scores show a solid understanding of math and English.</p>
<p>whoa are you kidding me? thats the greatest load of ******** ive ever heard. </p>
<p>look, i got 660 or something on english. i got a 4 on the ap exam. go ****ing figure. :rolleyes: </p>
<p>I don't see how your situation in life should be a deciding factor in a college admission.</p>
<p>this is probably the stupidest thing i've ever heard. honestly, i don't think you understand that not everyone has the same opportunities. okay so why dont we leave it to our collegeboard overloads for some exam that tests not intelligence nor complete aptitude but as a baseline score? look, why do you think we have admissions essays, letters of rec, or soft factors? itd be so mcuh easier to just have scores wouldnt i? look, why do elite universities have that as well or want to get to know you? because your applicaiton wouldnt be complete without it </p>
<p>sad things can happen to any of us. Just because you're a cancer survivor does that make you more deserving than a kid who worked his ass off?</p>
<p>ah yes that makes perfect sense! sad things - like not getting into ucla and blaming those wihtout knowing where theyre coming from? makes perfect sense. "sad world we live in " - no it's you comparing "cancer victims" to what an average person would experience. if you dont think that affects someone or how someone would do in life or about their priorities - i dont know what to think. . . </p>
<p>get over yourself. im glad you got rejected.</p>
<p>@jasonlee576</p>
<p>Hey now, I don't think Sour Grapes are even folklore, and what did you expect when you come off as hostile to many others? Well, you're entitled to your own opinion. </p>
<p>Anyways, welcome to admissions. If you think this is unfair, then wait 'til you try to apply for grad school. In my experience, specifically for medical school, they will not pick complete scholars who have 4.0 GPA and near-perfect MCAT scores if they don't have a well-rounded package. Schools love research experience, study-abroad trips (that ostensibly broaden your outlook), participation in non-medical clubs (such as community service), etc. You can have the intellect, and that's great; however, without personal experiences or extracurriculars, adcoms don't know whether you're going to have the maturity or the "been there, done that" confidence of learning from life beyond books. </p>
<p>Scores are important, but one can always bring up the example of hardships that might've hindered their test-taking abilities; the high-income kid who took SAT prep classes and didn't have to work does have an edge over the low-income kid who only had books. Neither may differ in intellect, but they do differ in terms of resources. </p>
<p>Finally: don't just **** off the hardships that people have gone through. A friend of mine got raped. She had pain that went on through the beginning of high school. Yet, she tried her best, and even though she had sub-par SATs, a high GPA and a willingness to succeed must have somehow shone through in her app. </p>
<p>Don't you dare just dismiss everyone's hardships and ECs as a "sob story" or a "falsified essay."</p>
<p>^^ Very uplifting story. It is brilliant that you made so much of yourself. You definitely are that candidate UCLA wants. Thanks for your story and excellent read.</p>
<p>To the OP, read his story, then go away. Yeah I feel for you that you didn't get into your dream school and you had the STats. Please join the club, along with everyone else who didn't get into their dream college with state that should let them in. At least you did not have to go through what the above poster had to. If all fails, just transfer to UCLA in two years.</p>
<p>This post makes me LOL</p>
<p>If UCLA saw this, they would definitely be glad they were smart about who they rejected.</p>
<p>ucla accepts less than 1 in 4 people during their admissions process, and over 55000 students applied this year. honestly, you can't expect their admissions process to be perfect. they have actual people going through the applications, not computers to calculate everything mathematically. with the number of students applying to ucla, they can't just look at numbers anymore, because the majority of the students that apply all have stellar SAT scores and gpa. they want something more. there are plenty of qualified students that get rejected every year, and they suck it up and move on. you should do the same.</p>
<p>you accused someone on this thread of being "ultra rude" and asked someone else where all their hostility came from. i'd like to point out that your original posts were extremeley "rude." you pretty much bashed UCLA, which most of the posters in this thread either go too, or want to go to. Not only that, you pretty much said that you're waaay better than those that did get accepted, which in my opinion, is really condescending. and if any of that condescension was showed through you college essay, then i'm honestly not exactly surprised to find out you didn't get accepted.</p>
<p>i will say however, that your stats are pretty impressive, and if your essay was fine, you still have a chance for berkeley. so stop moping and wait for your other college decisions to come.</p>
<p>Why did you make this thread if you didn't even want to go to UCLA in the first place? I'm not gonna bash you or anything since everyone else has but I think everything Boelter said was on spot</p>
<p>Duty</a> Calls!</p>
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<p>hahahah!!</p>
<p>grasspuppet- loooove the link =)</p>
<p>hahahah way to bring some comic relief, it's still funny even though i've seen that before lol</p>
<p>at the OP:
Well, if you really mean what you said in the title of this thread, you're pretty much failing your mission. College is not high school, full of amenities, where if you study and get great scores, you're pretty much set. People that have gone through hardships are not exactly at an advantage, heck, there are tons of people going through hardships but not many of them succeed to the point of getting accepted at UCLA. The fact that they chose not to give up and make the most of what they got shows more maturity and character than going to to SAT prep classes every weekend or studying in the comfort of their home everyday before a midterm test. Putting this into perspective, if you were blessed by not having to go through hardships like these other people, don't you think you could've done even better? like you could've made your own "hardships" or in other words, challenged yourself, if you think you're worthy (not saying you are not). Step out of your comfort zone for God's sake. I understand that a rejection from a dream/top school is depressing as god knows what, but it's how you choose to react at these critical points that really show your character.
Imagine you're at a ball game and the main star of the game gets a bad call by the referee, if he chooses to swear at the referee saying he's wrong and an idiot and that he'll regret his call , do you think the crowd will like him as a player??
First, if you really want to make UCLA regret their decision, why not stay positive and believe that wherever you go, you'll still be great? (since, after reading the majority of your posts, you believe that for yourself)
In the end, I hope, that this setback is like a bitter medicine for you, that will somehow make you a better person. </p>
<p>peace.</p>
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<p>I think Flopsy is cool and funny...:rolleyes:</p>
<p>OP, I do not think it was good idea to post this in UCLA thread unless what you were trying to do was picking up fights with other CCers here. You wouldn't get much support because many rejected applicants are not coming here anymore.. Maybe you could get something like 'the hell with UCLA, why did you even apply there' if you go to USC thread (although a lot of people applied to both schools).</p>