<p>Everyone is freaking out about the SAT I and IIs. People are posting chance threads with amazing stats, and people are telling them that their test scores are too low for a sertain major or college. </p>
<p>I just want everyone to look at the ED Results. Quite a few people with 700+ on all of their SATs (I and II) were flat out rejected. Others with 600s were deferred (myself included) and one was even accepted to CAS, the school with the lowest acceptance rate (other than AAP).</p>
<p>People are posting all of these Chances threads (I know that I did), but after seeing the ED results, it is so much more then test scores and stats. The truth is, no one will really know if you will get in or not until April. Strong test scores will always help (I know that I have to score higher on my SAT IIs to get accepted) but it really is just a toss up. You have to have strong essays, reccomendations, and a passion for something. Don't stress out about the test scores, they are not very influential at all, and although they do hold some weight, there is nothing you can do about them except retake. </p>
<p>So before people post a new chances thread, take a look at the ED results. There is no formula the admissions officers use, they look at each individual seprately. In some cases the test scores were ignored, in others they did not help at all. Don't worry about it!! Keep writing those essays and editing them until they express exactly who you are and then wait for April to arrive...</p>
<p>SATs are very important. anyone who tells you otherwise is misinformed/lying. </p>
<p>There is a much stronger correlation between sat scores and school rank/prestige and there are between GPA and the same factors. The kids with 4.0s who have 1200s just aren't getting into the ivies, while the kids with 1550 and 3.6 have a much better shot. Of course SAT is not everything--rather it selects the range of schools to which you should apply IMO. As one admissions officer said, "SATs count less than you might think, and at the same time more than colleges are willing to admit." (paraphrase)</p>
<p>There is much truth in what you said though: don't write off your dream school because you think your test scores or anything else is too low...you just might have what they want. Don't freak out; there are obviously many parts to an application, and SATs are not the most importnat one.</p>
<p>it all depends on each individual applicant. There is no formula or "cut-off" SAT score, one just has to be himself and prove to the adcom that Cornell will suffer if he doesn't go there.</p>
<p>From personal experience...and from what ive seen on the ED forum...i think 2000on the SAT-1 IS THE MINIMUM
I got 2230 (800,720,710) in SAT-1 and 2400/2400 in SAT-2 (phys, CHem, Math) and got thru ED...</p>
<p>"A good SAT score will not get you into Cornell. Very low scores will keep you out."</p>
<p>Hmm, my dad was not even in the top 10% of a fairly shoddy public high school, had basically only one EC (band), not an URM, no legacy status, but had a good SAT score and got in.</p>
<p>Admission officers know that there is a very low correlation between SAT scores and success in college. Therefore a student with a very low SAT score (1100s or 1200s) can get accepted to top colleges (including Cornell) if he has high GPA, and can prove to the Admission Officers through his essays that he is very dedicated, determined and can bring something to the college commmunity.</p>
<p>Biophillc, Actually i totally disagree with (unless the guy is an Olympic athlete or Int'l Musician like Mozart was when he was our age)...
The point is College guys WILL take a guy with low GPA and Higher SAT scores than a guy with High GPA and low Scores...essays might just save u from a l;ow score...but ur chance of gettin in with a 1100or 1200 are equivalent to u a bear coming into my romm and saying,"Howdy partner!"....and theat won't happen bec there ain't no bears in Bangalore, India</p>
<p>Well Arjun, on the contrary, Colleges will accept students with High GPA and low SAT scores because GPA is a beter predictor of success at college that SAT. </p>
<p>And the other fact is that top collleges such as Columbia University, Harvard University, Cornell University, New York University do accept many students from 1200s and few from 1100s.(i am not taking about athlete) I am giving these colleges as an example because, first of all i was accepted to two these colleges and i have very Low SAT score and second, i have brilliant friends attening these Universities who had High GPAs in high school and Low SAT scores. And let me tell you one more thing, these friends of mine are now the most succesfull people in their colleges.</p>
<p>Biophilic, Firstly...depends on ur school...if ur from an Elitist Private school where grading is VERY difficult and u still have a high GPA...chances are that might make up for a slack in ur SAT-scores...the other possibility is U HAVE STELLAR EC's...by stellat i mean u have a published book/ Int'l Model UN best delegate...stuff like that which make up for ur slack in SAT's...trust me Bio...our school's prefect is an Int'l Model UN leader...Volvo Int'l Environmental challenge 1st place...he and me are the best quiizers in this part of the woods...he still got deferred by Wharton bec of the low grades in SAT...and trust me being school prefect of NPS (the best private school in India) is nothin small</p>
<p>Okay, after this post i won't debate further!</p>
<p>Again, let me give my example and my other seven close friends from my high school. Based on the published reports, my public High school was/is considered the worst school in NYC. (Although i think i could not have gotten a better education in any other school). Well, my friends a I had very impressive ECS but not "Stellar" like you define it. We were in the top ten in our school but expect for two of my friends, the rest of us had low SAT scores. However and we all got accepted to Top colleges. Now two of my friends attend Copper Union, two NYU, one Columbia, One Harvard, one Stuny Brook and i attend Cornell!</p>
<p>BTW, once you come to Cornell, i assure you that you will meet students who have gotten low SAT scores. Some will be doing great, and some not that great at Cornell!</p>
<p>I have only had one opportunity to do the SAT Reasoning Test and I scored 780 on the math, and 600 on the cr. In my opinion the cr result is going to hold me back from being a great candidate, especially considering I'm an international, however when I had my Harvard interview my interviewer was very frank in telling me that it (the low CR score) won't affect me much at all because I have one very high result, and thats what they mainly look for. Just my 2 cents, for what its worth... I think some of you guys stress out about all this a little too much...</p>