The Journey Class of 2020 ... Denials, redirections, etc.

Syracuse is an all-or-nothing school, and academics are weighed pretty heavily. The department head made that clear in at my D’s info session at auditions last year.

@crc500 I believe that homerconnect is for students who have already paid their deposit and enrolled at Ithaca.

@monkey13 - I know absolutely nothing about Adelphi and Ill. Wesleyan - but find that surprising about Emerson. I know that students have been redirected from BFA to BA, but I have not heard of people being declined academically. I don’t doubt what you are saying, just isn’t one I have noticed. Again, it seems a strange thing to give an acceptance phone call, email etc- if things aren’t done at the school. It seems to me that the schools with separate academic acceptance (at least the ones my D came in contact with) encouraged kids who were artistically rejected to consider another major at the school. After all, the college would really like your $$… that happened to my D with Ithaca- she got calls/emails etc asking her to consider the “theater studies” major.

you can apply to I believe LAS at the same time as MT @ Michigan…my son didn’t pass the prescreen @ Michigan,but got in academically…he passed on their offer

@mtgirl225 - don’t base your decision on the acceptance of one other person (do you even know for sure she’s going to attend that program?). There are no guarantees that you will like all your classmates, roommates, faculty at ANY program and you WILL run into lots of “non-team-players” throughout your training and professional life. Learning to deal with them will be just as important as the performance skills you develop. If this program feels right for YOU, go for it. My S attends a program with some colleagues from his HS life that he was not particularly “friendly” with. Turns out they spend very little time together. And to his surprise, these people turned out to be better team players than he thought they were in HS.

@monkey13 - At Ithaca my D (who has strong academics), was rejected, but the letter - just found it - “you have the potential to contribute positively to our academic community. If you would like to be considered for another academic program, we would be happy to review your application further.” I’m assuming this is a form letter, but not sure? @toowonderful - definitely for Michigan an admit to their “regular” academic division would entail a separate and higher line drawn review - the “you passed” statement meant you passed the criteria admissions has for our BFA MT program students.

@toowonderful - just read your post re Ithaca - wrote this before reading it - so yes, same experience (but no calls - and the portal disappeared a few days after the letter was received.)

I believe Emerson is an all or nothing school. Artistic and academics are weighted pretty equally and it is one decision.

@rampions The same was said at Indiana.

@toowonderful There is a program my D was accepted to artistically but I have doubts she will pass academically. We are waiting. It’s an expensive school so it was an odd choice for my D to make considering she would need aid to go. They are known for giving a lot but I think it’s based on grades. I will tell you the name once we hear a def yes or no. It may not be a true offer for us to consider because of this but I wanted to tell you there are times when you don’t get in academically after all.

To EVERYONE who made those very kind responses to our unhappy news of rejections, a sincere
"Thank you’! I needed to go offline for a couple days to settle but when I got on today I saw all the thoughts and wanted you to know I appreciated them!

@rampions - D received the same letter from Ithaca after not passing the prescreen. She chose to not pursue other opportunities there.

Things at Emerson could have indeed changed…for all of these schools I mentioned it was my D’s year (or the year before) that this happened. And Emerson did get rid of their BA (which I just learned). So things change, but it does happen. If you search “rejected academically” on this MT thread (and the acting/drama thread) you can see people bemoaning the fact that it happened to them. It did not happen personally to us, but it did happen to one of my D’s friends her year. I agree it is strange…I am not condoning the practice, just saying yes, it happens. Thankfully, it is a moot point with DanceMamaRose20. But, it has happened in the past, and people should be aware it is possible. None of us like it…but it is what it is.

@mtmcmt - fingers crossed for a good outcome for your D

Unless something has changed, this was not the case when my D applied for a BFA in MT to Emerson. She applied and auditioned in the Early Action round. In mid-December, she was accepted EA to Emerson itself. She was deferred until the Regular Decision round for the MT program. Around April 1, when RD results were released, she was denied for MT and so she could have (but never would have) attended Emerson College, but not for MT.

Two years ago it was stated that academics and audition are weighted almost equally and I believe it was one decision. Perhaps if they didn’t want you artistically you would never know about academics? - which is possible.

Emerson was a single notification process 4 years ago as well. This sounds like a story of a student who did really well in the audition room and maybe got some positive feedback and took it as an acceptance before the formal processes had actually kicked in.

But speaking of Emerson, I just noticed that they now have a BFA in Comedic Arts. First program of its kind. Sounds pretty cool.

@halflokum- I wondered about that as well- could it be an “offer in the room” sort of thing. The auditors may be genuine (they really do want you) but not a “formal” acceptance

I’m surprised to hear that Illinois W accepted someone artistically but not academically. When D auditioned there last year, they made it clear that one had to cleared for academic admittance in order to pass the prescreen.

Like I said, these examples were all from 3 years ago…I don’t think Illinois Wesleyan had a prescreen 3 years ago? For the schools that have a bifurcated process, it has happened, and I assume it still can happen.

One No, One Hold and One YES! Still waiting on others but these 3 were her top choices… D’s #1 school was the “Hold” . We are thankful for the YES. So thankful. But how do we hold off to see if her top school (the Hold) comes through?

@ballet97 Congratulations! I think in another post you mentioned that the Yes school wanted a decision before May 1, but you shouldn’t have to accept any offers until May 1st so you should still have time to wait and see what happens to the Hold since it’s her #1 choice before making a decision.