The latest U.S. News Ranking

<p>What do you guys think about MIT being #7 according to this new ranking?</p>

<p>I’m so p*ssed</p>

<p>Well we’ve visited Penn for its campus preview. The decision between MIT and Penn was a no brainer.</p>

<p>Revealing are the SAT scores (for class 2010 I think) and Peer Assessment scores:</p>

<p>SAT scores
USN Rank, School, 25 Score, 75 Score, Avg
5 U Penn , 1330 , 1530 , 1430
7 MIT , 1380 , 1560 , 1470</p>

<p>Peer Assessment scores
Penn 4.5
MIT 4.9 (same as PHYS)</p>

<p>pebbles, the -3 or -1 drop could have been a Marilee effect(?).</p>

<p>It’s possible.</p>

<p>I feel that MIT is in a class apart and its order in rankings should not really matter. The contributions made by MITians over the past so many decades is not going to lose its significance if it moves ‘up’ or ‘down’ on a particular list. I am sure that the world can continue to look forward to many more significant research findings from MIT that once applied will have a lasting impact!</p>

<p>I agree with anxiousbear, but I can’t help but wonder WHY it dropped… or why Penn rose.</p>

<p>It doesn’t matter though. MIT’s prestige is in no way drawn by some company’s rankings. It was earned from what it’s students and faculty have actually done.</p>

<p>I agree with differential! If someone isn’t planning on going to MIT just because of the ranking, they don’t deserve to be there.
U.S. News is just trying to get thousands of people to pay them money for some ranking that they made up XP</p>

<p>I can’t believe this. I can’t even speak right now.</p>

<p>hehehe MIT is teh pwned by Penn</p>

<p>MIT r teh suxz0rz</p>

<p>Lol pebbles, at least Harvard didn’t get 1st. And for those guys it really IS A BIG DEAL.</p>

<p>I don’t know about you guys, but I have a sort of an easy answer for haters who kid me about MIT being 7th and all: </p>

<p>“I got into Princeton (USNWR number 1 two years running), but I turned that down because MIT is better <insert laundry=”" list=“” of=“” bamf=“” reasons=“” why=“” mit=“” is=“” t3h=“” pwn=“” here=“”>."</insert></p>

<p>the 7th must be taken into context. MIT is so science/math driven that it is truly not comparable to most of the schools on the list. If anything, I was shocked that cal tech was ranked higher than MIT.</p>

<p>The national list is really a terrible comparison for our school. It’s so different from ANY of the ivy’s, in terms of interests and focus. Let’s just be happy that we’re (still) .2 points above Stanford and Berkeley on Engineering and throw a party.</p>

<p>In September 1996, Gerhard Casper wrote the following in a letter to James Fallows, then editor of *U.S. News and World Report<a href=“%5Bb%5Dbold%5B/b%5D%20emphasis%20mine”>/i</a>: </p>

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<p>Gerhard Casper was the President of Stanford University from 1992 to 2000. The full text is available at <a href=“http://www.stanford.edu/dept/pres-provost/president/speeches/961206gcfallow.html[/url]”>http://www.stanford.edu/dept/pres-provost/president/speeches/961206gcfallow.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>College Confidential itself has some comments:</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.collegeconfidential.com/college_rankings/bad_rankings.htm[/url]”>http://www.collegeconfidential.com/college_rankings/bad_rankings.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>YOU guys realize this uses the 06’ data?</p>

<p>If anything, Marilee Jones scandal will screw MIT even more on next year’s USNews rankings because that’s when this year’s data/PA scores will be taken into account.</p>

<p>I don’t think anyone believes Penn > MIT just like most people wonder how Penn/Duke > Columbia.</p>

<p>Why does marilee jones have any bearing on ratings?
She certainly made a huge mistake, but it didn’t detract from the ADCOMs ability to make wise decisions on applicants. She was a kid who made a foolish mistake 28 years ago (not a justifying statement). Don’t let that decision detract from the truth that she was quite possibly the most celebrated and outspoken admission’s dean in America.</p>

<p>Is a ranking of 7 really a drop? I mean, when you look at the rankings for the past few years, I think last year’s 4 was anomalously high.</p>

<p>I still think it’s completely absurd to publish a ranking of Harvard, Yale, Princeton, MIT, Stanford, and Caltech that doesn’t have a six-way tie for first. These schools are all fabulous and provide a fabulous education for undergraduates; the differences between them are mostly in student culture and in the quality of individual programs.</p>

<p>Oh noes! We only got 7th place in a completely BS, useless, sensationalist and utterly profit-driven piece of crap survey. I think I will die of shame.</p>

<p>And say what you want about Marilee, but I truly fail to see how her scandal will affect the AP scores of MIT students. That’s utterly absurd.</p>

<p>i still can’t stop crying</p>