The Liberal and Democrat Thread!!!

<p>haha pixie...i would not want rice in a million years...something about her ****es me off...i would like to have mccain as president...he IS conservative...people just have this impression that he is moderate because he is willing to cooperate with Democrats on issues that are not important...on the real issues that matter, he is conservative...</p>

<p>It's not fear influencing my politics...its outrage...when we get attacked, i want a president who will recognize when enough is enough...people who mess with the strongest country in the world are idiots and its about time the world realizes this again...</p>

<p>"You and I live in the city where we saw firsthand foreign terrorists attack our country and kill innocent civilians....when i watch September 11, it makes me angry..and i feel glad that we have a leader who is showing the rest of the world that this is no longer the Clinton Administration and we are no longer sitting by and getting screwed...those terrorists really didn't count on Bush being our President..."..</p>

<p>hahaha..do u actually believe the crap you say?..hes fightin for our nation?..hes fightin terrorism?..heh...no hes using the war on terror to get what he wants..yet really no action is being taken against the terrorist..thats a load of crap..to go after iraq after 9/11..god we use 9/11 for everything.god if he wanted to rid the world of cruel leaders..why didnt he go after the other 10 or so freaking evil dictators?..bah..w/e</p>

<p>even the relatives of the victims of 9/11 dont agree with bush..because bush is NOT fighting for them so please can we stop using it as an excuse..its killing me to hear this..ur outraged?..thats why you loose your common sense..?..by constantly bringing up 9/11..your basically making these victims insignificant because in reality he is not fightin for them at all..they become nothin..</p>

<p>Thats what i mean...just because you live in NYC and are disillusioned, you think that what you believe is taken for granted...i DO believe what i said.</p>

<p>I think its ridiculous when people say that Bush attacked Iraq so he can pay back Hussein for trying to kill his dad...that the biggest crap in the world...and the other crap is the argument "if we go after Iraq, then we have to go after the other evil dictators." NO WE DON'T. We don't have to do anything. But we can start making a difference with Iraq.</p>

<p>WHAT?! how can any Bush-supporter not like CONDI?! AHHHHH blasphemy to my ears! how cool would it be to haev a President who's a concert pianist? </p>

<p>(haha i idolize her like no other) </p>

<p>McCain, yeah i'm nto saying he's a bad guy nor do i mind him being in public office...but he doesn't have the OOMPH to be <em>President</em> in the times we are in.</p>

<p>Talk about common sense..."we get attacked...we fight back..."
That's common sense.</p>

<p>by the way...
today its official that Iraq has and has not had weapons of mass detruction. a report will be made back to President Bush shortly. meanwhile, in north korea, kim jong il is positioning himself for a swift one.</p>

<p>why dont we just create a new political party</p>

<p>yeah i was thinking that, i wanted to stage a military coup but after discussing it with my mother i realized how quickly i would be snuffed out. heres a hint: very quickly.</p>

<p>Your mindset will always be flawed..this idea of helping the other.."difference in Iraq"..haha..not true..btw i dont like the UN either..they're are imperialistic beeches..UNpkos mask for their imperialistic ways and UN just helps super powers dominate because they practically become the other's fathers and liek they have a say ..but they never actually help the people..yeah they liberated "iraq"..but what does that mean..the people really arent free though..ppl are dying like hell..its hell there..so how have we "liberated" them..its false..but honestly both of us see it two different ways..and well id ont kno what to say..</p>

<p>"we get attacked...we fight back.."</p>

<p>cool cool...so that drug dealer around the corner snuffed me so im gonna knock the old woman out that i see across the street...hey i got attacked..i fought back..logic?..thats what u call logic and common sense?..o lord..this is what i mean when i say a republican hasnt yet proved what bush is doing is right..they just say I LOVe buSH accept it!..gahh</p>

<p>okay so this is what i ask to liberals:</p>

<p>1) if you're so smart, how would YOU have responded to September 11th?
2) Do you really think countries such as France and Russia and Germany were against the Iraq endeavor for MORAL reasons, or becuase of their own economic ties to Saddam's regime?
3) what productive thing has the U.N. done since the Korean war, and a few humanitairian efforts? Where were they during the crises in Rwanda, Somalia, and right now, SUDAN. It took them 8 months to call what was happening in Darfur a "genocide" becuase they ddint'w ant to **** off the tyrannical government that runs the place---and all the other countries who do business with it.
4) why did Saddam always have people follow UN Inspectors around in the 1990s if he claimed he wasn't hiding anything?
5) Do you believe in waiting patiently to be attacked before you strike back?</p>

<p>sexydesi, you're killing me. don't bash the UN, theyre the silent fixers of everything.so much of their work has gone unnoticed.</p>

<p>also, what you were saying about "we get attacked we fight back" reminded me of a quote some poltician said (i dont remember who) who said "attacking iraq after 9/11 makes as much sense as bombing mexico after pearl harbor"
which is true.</p>

<p>No...the UN did not liberate Iraq...the UN didnt do anything in Iraq...the US did...and i'm not going to tell you that we went to Iraq to free the people...that's just bush's way of appealing to you liberals...you want to talk common sense...i recognized that hussein was a threat even if he didnt have weapons of mass destruction because it would only be a matter of time before he got one...he violated UN resolutions...he killed thousands of his own people...i recognized him as a threat because I HAVE COMMON SENSE....it doesn't matter if they didn't find missiles.</p>

<p>6) how would you respond as a gunless citizen if an armed psycho was about to rape you? would you try to <em>reason</em> with him? sing songs about peace? </p>

<p>now really...</p>

<p>LOL film..well UN..they're pretty good but it is the UN that allows superpowers to stay imperialistic..in a way..they do..sorry dear:..</p>

<p>pixie..basically the logic bush used is i saw a black dude(not tryna put race ..just makes sense..cops are usually racist)..steal something soo the next black dude who passes by is the stealer!..caught!..we rock..yes the logic of a stupid cop...</p>

<p>ur asking "liberals" a questions yet u havent made one argument about how this war is good with warrants backing it up..yet i have told u why i dont believe its good..hmm ok..guys this is great..im loving it..but i have a lot of work to do..yikes..but i bet my azz will come back..grr</p>

<p>1) since i AM so smart, after 9/11 i wouldnt have attacked a country with no visible ties to al queda. stupid.
2) i don't care why france was against the war. i care why I'M against the war.
3) what productive things has the united nations done? the united nations have lifted dozens of countries out of what is defined as 'extreme poverty' which is less than $1 a day. they have quelled the aids crisis in some asian and african countries and spread awareness. unfortuneately, they took too long to repsond to sudan because their attention was diverted to iraq and repairing afghanistan, pakistan and indian, and several other hotspots. nothing can excuse that though.
4) why did bush give weapons and political power to sadam hussein is an even better question.
5) no i don't believe in waiting patiently, but i dont believe in preemptive strikes which just serve to increase militancy and endanger american citizens.</p>

<p>Well...i guess there's no proof that the armed psycho was going to rape you...so yeah, you wouldnt be justified in attacking him...wait until he rapes you, THEN you can act...hey its obvious isn't it?</p>

<p>6) what drugs are you on? thats the most ridiculous question ive heard in a while.</p>

<p>Why don't you "conservaties" go way to your own thread?</p>

<p>"6) how would you respond as a gunless citizen if an armed psycho was about to rape you? would you try to <em>reason</em> with him? sing songs about peace? "</p>

<p>as a gunless citizen..i would attack the man next to the armed psycho because thats what bush did.. didnt he?..</p>