<p>What are the lower ivies, and why?</p>
<p>I would say all of them except Harvard, Yale, and Princeton. The rest have relatively higher acceptance rates, are lower in the rankings, lack the same "prestige factor," etc.</p>
<p>Why discern about the academically subtle differences between the ivies (if there are any)? All of the ivies are GREAT along with AWS and the other "top" schools in the nation. If you can get into an ivy, little ivy, and/or top school you should go there based on fit not prestige...</p>
<p>Take me for an example, I think I'd fit better in at Williams rather then at Harvard, Yale, or Princeton. Why? I prefer the personal attention as well as smaller classes and closer student body. But that's just my opinion...</p>
<p>The "Lower Ivies"
that would be Princeton, Penn and Columbia.</p>
<p>The Upper Ivies would be, first Dartmouth, then Cornell, then Harvard, then ( I believe) Brown, then Yale.</p>
<p>...you meant geographically, right?</p>
<p>Hope that helps.</p>
<p>fountainsiren... aren't the "higher ivies" harvard, princeton and yale ?</p>
<p>AWS = Amherst, Willliams, Swarthmore?</p>
<p>j3ff,</p>
<p>absolutely not. do you have a map lying around? If not ask a friend, then find Canada and start moving your finger down as if you are headed to the south pole or your belly button. As you move your finger across the map you will first notice Hanover, New Hampshire (along the Connecticut River), then to the west (that would be your left) if you move just a little ways you will see Ithaca NY (Cornell). Continue, and you will eventually pass through Boston (Harvard), Providence (Brown), New Haven (Yale), NYC (Columbia), Philadelphia (Penn) and then, the lowest Ivy of them all in Princeton NJ.</p>
<p>Good Luck!</p>
<p>oh... i thought the "high" and "low" were about prestige... not geographically "high" and "low"</p>
<p>when they talk about higher and lower ivys it is generally in reference to their prestiage. Though the OP may have meant geographical, but most likely not.</p>
<p>Do ya think?</p>
<p>i think a more accurate ranking would be in terms of elevation from sea level</p>
<p>I hadn't really thought about it that deeply but, by God I think you're right; sea level would be the only true standard by which to judge one school's rising above another.</p>
<p>I'd say the "highest" Ivy would be Brown... ;)</p>
<p>Brown is located on a steep hill. </p>
<p>We could also use school colors. Start with red, because it has the longest wavelength, and work our way down from there. But I suppose that's more horizontal than vertical. No, you guys are right. Elevation from sea level is the best judge of all this.</p>
<p>To Penstasa:</p>
<p>You're correct. AWS=Amherst, Williams, & Swarthmore =)</p>
<p>Brown better hope global warming is a myth because when the glaciers melt, Brown will the first one to become part of the ocean. Thus, by this new objective criterion, Brown would be the lowest ivy followed closely by Columbia =)</p>
<p>LOL at FountainSiren. Go Big Green!</p>
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I would say all of them except Harvard, Yale, and Princeton. The rest have relatively higher acceptance rates, are lower in the rankings, lack the same "prestige factor," etc.
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<p>15-18% is a high acceptance rate? I'd like to see you get in. And what is it with people and this "low prestige factor" nonsense? Come on, do you even know what you are talking about?</p>
<p>Haha college_hopeful, I think I'm the only one who got what you meant by Brown being the "highest" university. Ok by now everyone's got it.</p>
<p>xanatos-I know ALL of the Ivies are strong academic schools, have relatively low acceptance rates, and are prestigious. The OP asked to distinguish between the Ivies. I think most people would agree that HYP (there is a reason this acronym exists) are considered to be the premiere Ivies. If you disagree, who would you put in the "lower ivies" cateogry?</p>