^^^What’s the excuse for a Communications professor interfering with the free dissemination of information?
I would love to see how the math department incorporates an inclusive curriculum. How do these protesters not realize what a ridiculous demand that is?
@OspreyCV22 I was very surprised to find out that she was a communications professor and am guessing I’ll find out more about this tomorrow; today the whole protestor vs. media thing didn’t really come about until later in the afternoon. I think tomorrow this will be talked about a lot more. I do know many students are penning emails to her in disagreement with her actions. I think she feels very strongly about the protestor’s cause and I can understand that they don’t want people right up in their face, but the majority of the reporters were being professional, respectful, and unaggressive.
@whenhen A lot of students feel that this has morphed into more of a revenge type thing than equal rights. Originally when this started out back in September, it was pretty low-key. But then things got more radical and the demands came out that felt more like “let’s make white people feel sorry that they’re white” than equality.
@CE527M I peeked at your school’s Yik Yak today and while it certainly does not represent the best that Mizzou has to offer, it did seem that most posters thought the demands were ridiculous.
It is called civil disobedience. Some times it is the only thing that works. The ghost of Peoples park and occupy Wall Street lives on
The demands in that list look like the typical unrealistic ones written by fringe activists.
However, it certainly does look like the discontent at the overall situation extends far beyond a few easily-ignored fringe activists.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/10/us/university-of-missouri-system-president-resigns.html says that “Mr. Wolfe, 57, was hired in 2012 from the corporate world, an outsider brought in to cut costs in the four-campus system. That was no recipe for popularity”. So perhaps the discontent has been building up for a while.
the video of those “professors” was really disturbing…the students can be held to a lower standard they are young and simply students. (their behavior was still disturbing) but those professors wow they embarrassed themselves and the school.
" I think she feels very strongly about the protestor’s cause and I can understand that " yeah something like that. (sarcasm)
@whenhen Lately Yik yak has become an outlet for people who disagree with the protestors to vent, as many feel it’s the only place they can truly express how they feel. A lot of people, even if they agree with some of the protestor’s beliefs, feel they’ll be labeled as a racist if they share any disapproval of what’s going on. So I can’t really say if that’s representative of a majority of the school or not. It seems like the student body is split half and half on which side they’re on. I feel like many students aren’t educating themselves about all of the events and are only forming an opinion of off the face value statements protestors and others have made.
I would say that discontent has been building up over time, @ucbalumnus. I’m only a freshman, but talking to upperclassmen, it does seem like there have been some issues in the past and he never has been the most-loved president.
Right now, the biggest thing being talked about is the media vs. protestors aspect. Many students who have previously supported Concerned Student 1950 (or at least supported partially), especially journalism students, now are turned off after today’s events.
This one is easy. All you have to do is spend time in class explaining how math was stolen from other cultures.(eyeroll)
How I would advise my football player? Either play and deal with all that it takes or get out and they will find the replacement for you very easily, there are plenty on the line who can step up. My D. could not handle he sport at college, she just got out and left it behind, moved on to something else tht was required by her future career. Not a biggy! As far as I understand college institutions are not there fro sports, they are there to educate. If one wants to pursue their other interests, fine, do it, but it has nothing to do with everybody else. I do not care that they got money out of these sports, I believe that emphasis on sports at college level is way too much. I would remove them all without a blink, just have clubs for those who are interested and clubs should not be free.
MiamiDap I agree with you 100% I have said again and again colleges need to update themselves! sports do not belong at colleges.
Yes, the NYT story this morning reveals more about the dynamics of the situation at Mizzou. Clearly, the pot has been simmering for a long time at that campus and the racial antagonism is apparently only one of problems that Wolfe mishandled. By the way, if the accounts of terribly bad judgment by the journalism/communications professor are true, she needs a new profession.
Getting back to the original gist of this thread, it is truly remarkable that the athletes made this stand, as Joe Nocera of the NYT notes. What I envision now is that this morning, or in the very near future, there will be meetings in the Athletic Departments and President’s offices at several big-time football and basketball schools. My guess is that they will strategize about how to best avoid the Mizzou athletes action at their own campuses. A fascinating scenario was posted in a comment section; what if players at schools in states whom have enacted laws which disproportionally impact minorities, and black players view said laws as unfair or unjust, what will leaders in those states do if their college revenue-athletes boycott games? In states that have passed restrictive voter eligibility laws --Texas, Alabama, North Carolina, Georgia— for example, action to repeal said laws in the face of multi-million dollar losses by the respective athletic departments, might come as swift as Wolfe’s resignation.
There is a video of the communications professor. Not sure how it will be possible to explain away her conduct.
As far as envisioning a great progressive uprising on college campuses by football players throughout the South, I think we are quite a way from there. Voter ID laws in particular are supported by very clear majorities of all ethnic groups who are legally eligible to register to vote.
You might be right, Ohiodad51. But something important happened yesterday, and I doubt it’s gone unnoticed by football players nationwide or, as LakeWashington points out, their management. It appears a group of black athletes realized they have power - and chose to exercise it to pretty stunning results. It may be hard to put the genie back in the bottle.
There was an interesting discussion last night on Don Lemon’s CNN show. (I don’t follow football at all but this was interesting). Apparently a Dallas Cowboys football player, Hardy, beat up his girlfriend severely and there are photos to prove it, worse than the Ray Rice dragging of his girlfriend.
Hardy got a suspension from the NFL. The question was whether football ‘activism’ will spread to objecting to being on the same team with someone with a history of domestic violence.
If football players have power, will they use it against one of their own who has beaten up a woman?
The video got picked up by gawker.com, “Woman Calling for “Muscle” To Block Reporter From Mizzou Demonstrations Is a Professor of Mass Media”. It’s on their home page about two-thirds of the way down.
It’s also all over Facebook, being shared by various journalists and others who are shocked at the complete lack of professionalism on the part of this individual.
This all went down on a Monday. There had to have been other options that were open to the university to push back on the athletes and those making demands that are way out of line, get an actual give-and-take going, and enough time to evaluate and implement at least one of those before the scheduled game in question. I have a lot of ideas that I’m choosing not to voice in a public forum.
This can’t be as simple as taking down the president AND chancellor being the supposed only way to avoid a $1 million revenue loss to the school. Some other factor must be bearing on this situation. Many of us are waiting for it to come out in the open.
“This can’t be as simple as taking down the president AND chancellor being the supposed only way to avoid a $1 million revenue loss to the school.”
We can’t know what’s going on in everyone’s head, but I can’t help but wonder if the president said to himself - “I don’t need this crap, I quit”. From what I read the guy was semi retired and came to run the school in his home state, and wouldn’t really blame him for choosing not to put up with it.
That seems plausible @DecideSomeHow , particularly if he was not a career academician as some have cited.
Just don’t like the precedent it sets for secondary education governance in general. There’s a word starting with “T” that I’m trying ultra hard not to use here.
Black lives do matter! My hope is that more atheletic teams stand up for the rights of the people and the students in general. Voter ID laws have only one purpose and that is to prevent minorities from voting. There has been study after study that show this. If college athletes are the only one with courage to stand up for the rights of minorities such as protesting restrictive voting laws more power to them
Nonsense.