<p>Merci beaucoup sybbie!</p>
<p>Hope this helps..</p>
<p>Entering first year students who plan to continue in French should take the SATII French Subject test during h.s. This score willbe used for placement as follows:</p>
<p>0-530 and has completed 2 years or less of French in H.S. French 1</p>
<p>540-600 or 3 years of french in H.S. French 2</p>
<p>610-680 French 3</p>
<p>Students with scores of 690 or more will have satisfied the language requirement</p>
<p>Note:</p>
<p>A student who is placed in French 2 and plans to apply for a Language Study Abroad program must take French 2 within 6 months of departure
The LSA program consists of French 3,5, and 6 therefore a student who completes French 3 on campus cannot attend an LSA program, but may attend the advanced Language Study Abroad (LSA+)</p>
<p>Successful completion of CEEB- AP syllabus may exempt entering students from the language requirement and/or for credit for French 10, the prerequisite to all upper level french courses. Students who score 4 or 5 on either AP exams (Language or Literature)will have satisfied the language requirement in French. Students with an AP score of 5 for French Lit will automatically receive credit for French 10. Student s who score a 4 in literature of a 4 or 5 in language are eligible to take the DART. If they pass the DART, they will recieve credit for French 10 and may elect an upper level french course.</p>
<p>Students who have not taken the AP exam (or who have scored a 3 or below)may satisfy the language requirementby obtaining a 690 on the SAT II French Subject test. These studnets are then eligible to take the DART. THose who pass the DART will receive credit for French 10 and may elect upper-level French Courses.</p>
<p>Exemption from French 8 </p>
<p>An entering studnet who has been exemped from the language requirement in French and, in addition has studied in a french speaking country for more than 3 months are eligible to take the APE during orientation. A score of 90% or more will earn exemption (no credit) for French 8. French 8 and French 10 constitute the prerequisites for participation in the French Foreign Study Program</p>
<p>IB</p>
<p>Students who have completed the IB program in french are invited to take the APE and DART exams. PLease check with the department of French & Italian for scheduling these exams.</p>
<p>For example, my daughter had 4 years of HS French, no AP. she is planning on a French minor or second major. She took the French SatII (with much grumbling because she thought all those tests were behind her :)) and scored about a 720. This made her eligible for French 8. I think, maybe she will chime in here, that she elected to not take the DART, because she had visited a French class during Dimensions, and conversed with the prof, and felt that French 8 was her appropriate placement. In fact, because of scheduling issues, she took French 10 last term and is just now taking 8, and is doing/did well in both. French 8 is mostly obscure or formal writing type grammar, I'm not sure how much she is learning in that class, but the first week or so of French 10 was tough after not speaking French for 6 months. I think she feels these were the correct placements for her.
Her goal was to be exempt from the language requirement, which saves a class or two whether or not the student intends on continuing language study. She was also hoping to do the FSP not LSA+, and meeting the language requirement allowed her to do that.
I think, Sybbie, that there is an additional requirement for the FSP that the student has to have taken at least 1 class in French at Dartmouth? So that you couldn't do the FSP without having taken an upper level French course even if you were exempt from 8 and 10?</p>
<p>I'm sure that a student who is advanced enough to get exemptions for both French 8 and 10 would get some individual guidance about course selection, etc.</p>
<p>There are 3 different French study abroad programs- 2 language and 1 Foreign study abroad. Can we go Paris with her (tell her that we travel really well and we will not cramp her style :) )</p>
<p>The French FS- Paris</p>
<p>The French foreign study provides students the opportunity to study French language, literature, and civilization on an advanced level in Paris.</p>
<p>Special courses in advanced grammar and stylistics, modern French literature, art history and modern history and politics are taught by French faculty and the Dartmouth faculty member.</p>
<p>The program aims to expose students to French literature, history, art, and society through classroom study and readings, excursions and site visits, personal contact with families and firsthand experience with French life in conjunction with the art history course. Students are expected to converse fluently with French people and to write on a variety of cultural topics with an accurate command of French vocabulary and idiom. Students will gain a perspective on their own culture through intimate experience with and understanding of French culture.</p>
<p>Curriculum</p>
<p>French 29: French Civilization: Study Abroad (two half courses: one on art history and one on history)
French 30: French Literature: Study Abroad
French 31: The French Language: Study Abroad (two half courses: one on grammar/stylistics and one on history)</p>
<p>Prerequisites</p>
<p>Students must complete French 8 (with a grade of B or better).
Students must also complete French 10 (with a grade of B or better).
French 10 should be taken as immediately prior to the term in Paris as schedule allows. </p>
<p>*Students who have received exemption from French 8 AND credit for French 10 during Orientation Week must take at least one French course at Dartmouth from among French 10 through French 25 (with a grade of B or better) prior to participation in the Foreign Study Program. *</p>
<p>Prerequisite courses for the foreign study cannot be taken with the NRO.</p>
<p>OR</p>
<p>Satisfactory completion of the LSA program in France during the term immediately preceding the foreign study term.</p>
<p>French LSA- Lyon</p>
<p>(maybe isacc will chime in as I think his son is currently on this trip)</p>
<p>Lyon is the second largest city in France. Located at the junction of the Saone and Rhone rivers, Lyon has been, since its founding by the Romans, a major center of culture and commerce. Today the old city, with its vestiges of the Roman and Medieval eras, is surrounded by the evidence of a thriving urban economy. The LSA program is affiliated with the University of Lyon. In addition to the courses taught at the University of Lyon, students will be able to benefit from the cultural offerings of the city theaters, concerts, museums as well as from the beauty of the nearby Alpine and Beaujolais regions. Lyon also offers sporting opportunities.</p>
<p>Curriculum</p>
<p>French 3: Intermediate French
French 5: Language Study Abroad: Aspects of French Civilization
French 6: Language Study Abroad: Readings in French Literature </p>
<p>Prerequisites</p>
<p>French 2: Introductory French (with a grade of B- or better)</p>
<p>*French LSA+ - Toulouse *</p>
<p>The mid-level LSA+ program is located at the University of Toulouse. Located in the southwest of France at the foot of the Pyrenees, Toulouse, the fourth-largest city in France, is known for its remarkable Medieval and Renaissance architecture.</p>
<p>Curriculum</p>
<p>French 8: Exploring French Culture and Language
French 10: Introduction to French Literature: Masterworks and Great Issues
French 12: Advanced Writing and Speaking in France </p>
<p>Prerequisites</p>
<p>French 3: Intermediate French (with a grade of B- or better) or exemption from French 3.
<a href="http://oracle-www.dartmouth.edu/ocp/prod/index.cfm?FuseAction=Programs.Home%5B/url%5D">http://oracle-www.dartmouth.edu/ocp/prod/index.cfm?FuseAction=Programs.Home</a></p>
<p>Let's all meet in Paris! I hope that her Dad and bro and I, can go to Paris for spring break while she is there. We'll have to see how the airfares look and if Dad and bro are off the same week.</p>
<p>One issue she has had with her level of French was keeping her French up while waiting to go on the FSP - she couldn't exactly put off French 10 until right before she left! She looked into drill jobs, but there are a large number of French speakers and some are truly fluent or native speakers, so she didn't quite qualify for those. She will by default end up with a French minor or close to, if she only takes one more class between now and going to Paris.</p>
<p>BIG ALERT TO ALL NEW '10s!!!</p>
<p>If you want to study abroad, it is a good idea to look over the offerings and begin planning as a first semester frosh where you want to go and what you want to do. You will probably at least end up minoring in what ever field you choose to do a study abroad in so plan accordingly. Depending on your interests, and how you feel about foreign study, the program offered in your proposed major may not work for you. The FSPs in particular have prerequisites that have to be taken into consideration. The popular FSPs are often filled by majors and rising juniors. It really takes some planning and trade-offs.
D originally wanted to do 2 FSPs, but that will probably not end up happening, because she isn't too interested in her proposed major's FSP, and she would have to do them almost back to back - soph spring, junior fall. Not too early to give that some thought.</p>
<p>Cangel,</p>
<p>I totally agree with the planning early.</p>
<p>I think it is never too early to plan. when D an I spoke about this, she said nah.. now in hind sight she wishes she had done one of the spanish study abroads this term (barcelona and puebla). </p>
<p>She lucked out in getting the FSP in her major as she originally got waitlisted, then called about a week after they got back spring term (you find out right before the end of winter term).</p>
<p>I would also suggest if you are planning on doing a study abroad keep an open mind and apply to more than one. </p>
<p>It seems that a language is easier to get into because they are given more often. However gov't (as one of the most popular majors ) can be pretty hard and most of the programs for majors only take 15 students and go once a year. </p>
<p>Another friend who is an enviromental studies major applied for the FSP 2 years (fall junior & senior year) in a row and did not get it.</p>
<p>One of the friends signed up for germany about 2 weeks ago because there were still open spots.</p>
<p>But D friends who is a classics major is doing the greece study abroad spring 2007 and rome in fall 2007 (I am so jealous). </p>
<p>One friend is away this term in puebla, coming back for sophomore summer then going to copenhagen in the fall.</p>
<p>there are great opportunites, however it does take planning</p>
<p>Applying to more than one is a good idea. D didn't because she wanted to do the language one first, and hey are easier to get into. She woudl love to do another, but she thinks spring 07 fall 07 is too much, and she is thinking about a medieval studies concentration, and there are specific times she needs to be on campus to get the medieval classes she needs. I'm hoping that she may change her mind and try for junior spring, but she just doesn't want to do the history on, and doesn't have time for 2 minors, or 3 courses that don't count for anything</p>
<p>D told me that some students applied to multiple programs, multiple terms to ensure that they would get something then they picked where they ultimately wanted to go. So applying to multiple programs are not a bad idea.</p>
<p>D also once told me that she did not want to be away back to back terms, so much for that. (coming up to move for from river to house for sophomore summer, then will come back to so bring stuff home/ place in storage until spring 2007).</p>
<p>But you now have to pack up the end of winter, unpack for sophomore summer, store stuff again until she comes back in the fall (kids!! sheesh)</p>
<p>Because your D's program meets each term, did she have to apply for a specific term, or was she simply open to whatever openings they had?</p>
<p>East wheelock is too far away from the main campus, so after a year, I decide to reside in the international house, lol.</p>
<p>thanks for the intro sybbie...my S(08) is half way thru the fsa lyon
after 4 weeks you get a week break to travel...a bunch from d went
turin..venice ..florence..rome..and tmw genoa ..then return to home base in lyon for another 4 weeks
his host family has been great..living in town in a 5th floor apartment
the first 2 weeks they faced student shut down of campus to protest
a modified unemployment rule...we were quite nervous but everyone said france without revolution is not france..they moved the class to
an abandoned army base for 2 weeks which had no computers etc..
but then they went back to lyon university campus which is quite modern and over 25000 students...he reports total french immersion with courses in culture, lit and grammar..he says the days are long in classroom..not like being at dart where you take 2 courses a day at most..other weekends they traveled to bern,interlochen, arles..in lyon holocaust museum..lemierbrothers museum(first to do projection movie)
the city has ancient roman ruins..subways and trams..great bread and cheese but warm milk..and of course he is of drinking age there which he says really discourages binging
timewise to sign up the deadline was extended during winterbreak and s jumped on it the last day..</p>
<p>Sybbie, she applied for both winter and spring term, and got her first choice, winter.
Isaac, my SIL and family lived in Lyon for 3 years, her son was born there. She loved it, it is both a very modern and very historic city - they lived in half of a 300 year old house. It was quite an adjustment, but they are considering returning to France with 3 toddlers, so it mustn't be that bad.</p>
<p>he has already indicated he would go back to lyon to work/live in near future ...</p>
<p>regarding fridges i may have been confused if there was rental available
maybe some current students can answer that question
but if you live in south or west coast wait til get your roommate assignment..if he/she is from ny/conn/mass etc they will be driving with
tons of stuff and will bring the little fridge
pier one in lebanon did offer delivery for a couch/futon my son and roommie split .</p>
<p>D and her roommate went to walmart in west leb and got a fridge and a futon.</p>
<p>The cost of mini fridges are so inexpensive, I don't understand why someone would want to rent. For students who are living with other roommates next year I would check the blitzes as the seniors will be selling/giving away a lot of stuff over the next few weeks as they prepare to leave Hanover.</p>
<p>Another thing about fridges and such. At dimensions, a student in the DOC told us how the DOC was collecting fridges, TV's and other things that were being thrown out at the end of the year, and are going to sell them at discounted prices. That could be worth looking in to.</p>
<p>Lemonjello, that would be great if DOC does that, if they had them last year we missed the throwawy fridges - although I wouldn't be too keen on some of the guys' fridges :).</p>
<p>A friend of D's who is thinking about staying this summer is planning to hold her fridge for her - one less thing to store, and itwill probaly fare better plugged in and working.</p>
<p>I am headed to Dartmouth in the fall and far as foreign language requirements go; I don't have a good base in any foreign language. What are the minimum requirements, or easiest course choices in (Spanish) the foreign language department.</p>
<p>Hi TJ, </p>
<p>Post # 22 has the foreign language placement requirements. You do not have to take a language placement. </p>
<p>It is perfectly ok if you want to start with spanish 1. </p>
<p>You would have a choice of:</p>
<p>taking spanish 1, 2 and 3</p>
<p>taking spanish 1 and 2 and a spanish LSA in Barcelona, which is given fall, winter, and spring terms. Maybe Ohmadre can chime in on this one as her daughter is on this one.</p>
<p>Barcelona is a beautiful city located on a narrow Mediterranean coastal plain of northeastern Spain, with a population of nearly 2 million. The metropolitan area, including many small industrial towns, has a population of 3.9 million. The old city lies close to the harbor. Its chief feature is Las Ramblas, a broad tree-lined avenue leading to the Plaza de Cataluna. Wide boulevards occupying the site of ancient walls surround the precinct. The old city contains remains of the Roman settlement, a medieval cathedral and many ancient palaces and houses. </p>
<p>Barcelona is also the site of several universities, among them the University of Barcelona, host of our LSA. The University of Barcelona was founded by Alfonso V, King of Aragon, in 1430, and is one of the largest and most important universities in Spain. There are a number of museums and galleries, including an important collection of works by Picasso, Miro and Tapies, and one of the finest museums of Romanesque art in the world. The city is a cultural center and a focus for sports activity, preeminently soccer. Perhaps its most famous building is Antonio Gaudi's unfinished Sagrada Familia church, begun in the late 19th century and characterized by its cluster of openwork spires. But once visitors return home, the two images of this distinctive city that remain most vividly are its art nouveau architecture and the brightness of its beautiful Mediterranean light.</p>
<p>Curriculum</p>
<p>Spanish 3: Intermediate Spanish
Spanish 5: Language Study Abroad: Hispanic or Spanish American Civilization
Spanish 6: Language Study Abroad: Introduction to Hispanic Literature </p>
<p>Prerequisites</p>
<p>Spanish 2: Introductory Spanish (with a grade of B- or better)</p>
<p>*** or***</p>
<p>spanish LSA in mexico which is given during the winter and spring terms.</p>
<p>Puebla, with a population of 2.2 million and two hours away from Mexico City, is located next to the famous Popocatepetl and Iztaccihuatl volcanoes and is known to be one of the most important historical cities of the New World. Founded in 1531 to fulfill the European utopian dreams of an ideal city, it was named the City of Angels and inhabited by the elite of colonial Mexico. Close to Cholula, one of the most significant religious centers of the pre-Columbian era, and to Tonanzintla and Acatepec, the most outstanding examples of the baroque period in the Americas, Puebla is especially rich in archeological and architectural treasures.</p>
<p>Mexican language study abroad combines classroom experience at the Universidad Popular Autonoma de Puebla with extensive fieldwork through excursions (Teotihuacan, Mexico City, the Valley of Oaxaca) and programmed events. The program offers intensive courses in language (with emphasis on grammar and conversation), Mexican civilization, and Spanish American literature. Through direct contact with urban and rural Mexicans, the students become sensitive to another culture and more conscious of the realities of contemporary Latin America. </p>
<p>Curriculum</p>
<p>Spanish 3: Intermediate Spanish
Spanish 5: Language Study Abroad: Hispanic or Spanish American Civilization
Spanish 6: Language Study Abroad: Introduction to Hispanic Literature </p>
<p>Prerequisites</p>
<p>Spanish 2: Introductory Spanish (with a grade of B- or better)</p>
<p>sybbie:</p>
<p>am I correct in reading that two languages (Span and French) require completion of three quarters, (e.g., Span 1, 2, & 3), whereas some other languages, only require two quarters, (e.g., Greek 1 & Greek 3, since there is no Greek 2). Does that mean the two quarter sequences are more intense, or do they cover less material than a three quarter sequence?</p>
<p>I honestly don't know why latin/greek are have a 2 term language requirement when most of the other languages are terms. </p>
<p>it could be basis on then ease of learning the grammar/syntax.</p>
<p>it could be that some of the other languages are more widely spoken</p>
<p>It could be that some of the other languages are also programs majors (spanish, french, italian, russian , portugese, asian middle eastern languages, hebrew, german)</p>
<p>don't have a answer</p>
<p>For a two-room double in Tuck Mall or McLaughlin, do people usually each have a separate room or share both (e.g. both beds in a room, both desks in another, etc.)? One problem with each person having their own room is that both closets are in the same room, so even if that is Tom's room, Tom's roommate will still have to go in sometimes, which could get annoying if Tom is sleeping or whatnot. </p>
<p>As you can probably tell by this post, I am a person who likes privacy and personal space. Should I just request a single then? I would prefer to live in one of the new dooms but they only have 2 room doubles. Are they that much better, enough to forfeit a single in the Choates?</p>