<p>Sakky, I personally don't believe that not putting your PhD degree on the resume is a sin. And yes, employers don't always tell you the whole truth, so why would anyone be obligated to tell them the whole truth? Unfortunately, real life isn't fair. This is not an argument of ethics, and it doesn't matter what you think. All it matters is what the employers think. </p>
<p>If you read the threads carefully, people were fired immediately after it had been found out. And these stories come from scientists who have years of industry experience. If you are not satisfied with it, go argue with the employers, not me, but please don't mislead people in this forum.</p>
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Forum Identity: DJM Mon, 13 Aug 2007 11:22 AM
author: Derek
Risky proposition if there is language on anything you sign to start employement about full and truthful disclosure of education/background or for background checks. I personally know of a couple of cases of people fired on the spot when it was found out. </p>
<p>I don't think it is omitting the PhD degree per se that is the firing offense. Let's assume nobody notices the gap in the work history. If the job application has for example an "Education" section which starts with "last degree received..." and you put down the BA and "forget" the PhD and then sign below that all that you have written above is the truth - that is where they nail you. In at least one case I know someone did this for several years with promotions and everything and nobody was the wiser until he hit the glass ceiling and applied for a PhD level internal posting for which he saw himself qualified and then brought up the never before mentioned PhD. Was fired the same day. </p>
<p>background<< forum indexSearch MessagesForum Identity: Dave Jensen Mon, 13 Aug 2007 01:39 PM
affiliation/organization: CareerTrax
NH said, "I don't feel it's necessarily unethical to omit things from your CV/Resume, especially if it's not particularly relevant to the job you're seeking. Many people adjust their CV/Resume for the job they're applying to - emphasizing some things and minimizing or altogether omitting others." </p>
<p>It really doesn't matter what a person things, it is how employers think. Omitting a PhD from a resume is a fraud, a fabrication that would entitle you to immediate dismissal. I can't imagine one employer of the hundreds I've worked with saying "Oh well, that's OK." </p>
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