<p>BC does not provide condoms (or any BC) anywhere on campus, including the infirmary.</p>
<p>Notre Dame also does not, nor have they “caved” on any of the things mentioned above. They have single sex dorms and parietals. Although there is always some of the requisite grumbling by students (especially freshman), surveys repeatedly show the students do favor this system. They say it greatly increases the camaraderie and bonding that occur within the dorms. Residential life is one of ND’s hallmarks and 85% of students live on campus. Something must be working in the system.</p>
<p>“I can certainly understand Georgetown taking a principled stand against providing contraceptives based on the institution’s religious and moral convictions.”</p>
<p>This doesn’t sound like the Georgetown I know when I went there.</p>
<p>I attended one of the above-mentioned Catholic colleges in the mid-70s. Dorms were coed and “sleeping over” happened all the time, even when there was a priest living on the floor. It was not a big deal at all.</p>
<p>Thanks for the information, bonniemom. That is great to hear (at least to me. :p).</p>
<p>You’re welcome. My personal opinion is that if a kid is old enough to have sex, they’re old enough to take a hike to the local CVS and buy their own birth control. But that’s just me. :)</p>
<p>I lived in coed dorms, with coed bathrooms, in the late 70’s. It was not a prudish school. While there was certainly lots of sleeping over, it was generally limited to the single rooms which most upperclassmen, and a few freshmen, had. I don’t recall it happening much, if at all, in shared doubles. I think it was considered rude to your roommate.</p>
<p>Also, I never heard of anyone having sex while the roommate was in the room. You had a pre-arranged signal (the proverbial tie on the door was not one of them), to indicate that the room was in use. I would not have appreciated this at all.</p>
<p>The book, The Naked Roommate, recommends that if this happens to you, you can watch and do a running commentary (“Wow, that was fast” was one suggestion), or you open the door and invite others in to watch as well.</p>
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<p>did not read the whole thread, but this shocked me also when I sent my oldest to school this year. Graduated 1986 Purdue…all girls dorm (but as far as i know rules were the same in all the dorms)…NO overnight guests, doors open, we had a door checker and if you came in past a certain hour, you had to show your i.d. to an old dour lady at the desk). That being said, overnights were common, but not ALLOWED!! (RIGHT) </p>
<p>Even in the co-ed dorms (which meant girls on one WING, boys on another) not girls in one room boys in the next, and oh by the way we share a bathroom.</p>
<p>I know they are adults (technically) but let’s think beyond the sexual “whatever” and ponder what a safety issue this is…some girl down the hall invites some random guy to spend the night, and there he is leering at your daughter in the bathroom while she showers the next morning?! So glad this was a non-issue for me…what kid would even WANT this hassle?</p>
<p>At D’s school, the rule is you can’t have the same guest stay in your room more than 3 nights in a 30 day period. That allows kids to have a friend (or GF or BF) visit for the weekend, but protects roommates from being is repeatedly sexiled from their own room.</p>
<p>Last year I read in the paper that Tufts had to pass a rule that students couldn’t have sex in their room if their roommate was there. Apparently there was a problem with kids doing this - one roommate trying to sleep while the other was having sex with a BF/GF in the same room. Now THAT, to me, is way over the line.</p>
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I’ve read that 74% of high school seniors are sexually active (or have had sex, so maybe the difference lies in current activity), so I’d think it would be higher for college students.</p>
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Jesuits are more liberal, but share the Catholic morality, so this makes sense. Students should be responsible for their own sexual practices.</p>
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Ancient Greek throwback.</p>
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I wouldn’t say a thing. Well, I might comment on the Youtube video of the romancing couple when I uploaded it, but other than that …mums the word. Cue 80’s porn music Boom chick-a wow-wow</p>
<p>Don’t know what college you went to but that sounds much more like the '50s than most college dorms from the early '70s on</p>
<p>I have a friend whose father fought in the * first* World War( our kids are the same age) & the father of one of D1’s high school classmates- graduated in '54,( I wasn’t even * born* until '57) from Reed College ( D is '06).- so I know that age wise CC parents are all over the map.</p>
<p>Every generation thinks they invented sex - but really that isn’t a big revelation to me anymore.</p>
<p>“Apparently there was a problem with kids doing this - one roommate trying to sleep while the other was having sex with a BF/GF in the same room. Now THAT, to me, is way over the line.”</p>
<p>While my S had this problem with his freshman roommate, there were student who had to deal with this when I was in college.</p>
<p>In the 70s, my boyfriend had a single his senior year because he was president of his fraternity. He put a sign up sheet on his door for his fraternity brothers to sign up for nights in his room when he was going to be away for the night. He also had a puppy and there was a sign up sheet to walk the chick magnet too.</p>
<p>I went to college in the 70s, a private religious INO (not Catholic) institution. They had just eliminated mandatory chapel the year before I arrived. My freshman year, we had to have parents’ permission and sign out and in if we were going to be out late. All that was abolished by sophomore year and by junior year, we had a co-ed (different wings) dorm. </p>
<p>No one I know of ever had sex with roommate in room. Any of my friends would have drawn the line at that, but as far as I know, the idea never occurred to anyone. Overnight visits happened when roommates were away for the weekend or were planned so roomie had plenty of time to make other arrangements (and even that only happened with out of town visitors). Opposite sex was not supposed to be on floor after hours, so you had to sneak them in and out.</p>
<p>cartera, did your BF charge rent (for the room and/or puppy)? He could have made himself a nice income…</p>
<p>My husband went to a Catholic University, not Notre Dame. I went to a flagship public. We were both in college in the mid-70s. He is SHOCKED, shocked I tell you that girls are allowed in college dorms and actually sleep over. I can’t imagine what he is shocked about … this was normal in my college days.</p>
<p>I went to a state school in the early 80’s. There were strict visiting hours for the opposite sex. Visitors had to leave their student ID at the front desk, and got it back when they left. If the ID’s weren’t picked up by midnight (10 on weekdays), they came looking for you. If you snuck someone of the opposite sex into your room, it was grounds for expulsion.</p>
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<p>As a college Student Affairs VP and Dean, I can assure you that experimentation with sexuality and intoxicants have been hallmarks of the college experience since Colonial times. Having served in the past as the VP of a conservative denominational school, I can further attest to the fact that sexuality is as rampant on such campuses as it is at the state universities where I’ve worked, regardless of rules regarding male-female visitation. And when you think of it, our survival as a species is utterly dependent upon the vigor of that urge - we’re all the descendants of ancestors who managed to pursue their sex lives despite whatever obstacles were in their way. </p>
<p>Ultimately, regardless of an individual’s personal choices, it’s concern for responsibility, safety, and consideration of others that needs to be the outcome of the college experience with one’s own sexuality or the sexuality of others. And schools that are precluded by internal or denominational politics from advocating or providing condoms are playing roulette with the lives of young people. “Just say no” is neither a safe nor a responsible approach for a community composed of thousands of 18- to 25-year olds.</p>