<p>Now, now, HSisOverrated, I never said the Ivy admissions process was idyllic, and I suppose I didn’t really mean the best and the brightest and all. My point was simply that some of your numbers were off; I, personally, know some brilliant kids going to Ivies/Ivy Equivalents. I also know some brilliant kids going to non-Ivies or equivalent. However, from my area (suburban NJ), the kids who go to Ivies usually deserve it, whether they are legacy or not. The ones who aren’t at Ivies usually tried for Ivies, didn’t make it, and are perfectly happy where they are now as well. </p>
<p>I dunno. I think the Ivies still house a lot of the smartest kids. By no means all, but I’d say you’re much more likely to find a high percentage of really smart kids at Columbia than at, say, a CUNY school. </p>
<p>I would also like to add that I, too, disagree with the admissions process at the Ivies; I wish factors like race, legacy, etc. did not come into play. However, the fact of the matter is that they do, and if you don’t have any of those advantages, then you have to find another way to get a great education, whether at an Ivy or not. </p>
<p>I don’t know. This post is incoherent.</p>
<p>And I’m pretty sure BookLady didn’t understand wrong. That seems pretty clear. I don’t see what the graduating class has to do with anything. The graduating class has the same % legacy as the rest of the class.</p>