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<p>Haha I noticed that too. It got quite annoying.</p>
<p>I’m from Virginia and only four people from my high-school applied to UMich. All four of us got in, but only three chose to go. A guy who scored a perfect 1600 on his SATs and had a 3.9 GPA (chose UMich over UVA, which everyone thought was very very weird). A girl who’s dad had gone there, she had average stats, another guy who didn’t get into UVA or W&M but miraculously got into UMich and me, who applied to only two schools in the Midwest, UMich and UChicago. UChicago was too expensive so I had to stay in-state. I wouldn’t spend over 100k to go to a top-10 school over a top-20 school. Had UMich been more generous with the FA than my in-state schools, I would have gone there. I would have gotten the same (excellent) education, with money…it’s a no-brainer, at least for me.</p>
<p>The rankings shaft public schools hardcore, so if I were an undergrad, I wouldn’t really focus on those. When schools like Emory, Vanderbilt and Notre Dame are ranked above schools like UVA, UMich and Berkeley, I just LOL. </p>
<p>BTW, sorry OP, but do you seriously think a school like the University of Chicago/Berkeley are less than Duke, just because is it ranked lower? Only if you knew that outside of the east coast, and the United States, in my experience in Europe and Latin America, Duke is virtually unknown, while the University of Chicago (for example) and UC Berkeley are regarded as the most prestigious universities in the world. Rankings are seriously flawed.</p>
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<p>A lot of international friends of mine at Michigan refers Michigan as UMAA or UM-Ann Arbor.</p>
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<p>Wow, that was so pointless and ridiculous of you… I won’t even waste time replying with a explanation, very ignorant of you.</p>
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<p>Really? I think something simple like such ( University of Michigan- Ann Arbor, which you claim along with bearcats annoying) can easily be over looked, and if not… one should learn how to. I never have encountered as many more ridiculous cc users as I have under the University of Michigan- Ann Arbor forum, seriously… those I have encountered look for anything to counter about, and that is just absurd.</p>
<p>Alexandre, thanks for you post. That’s impressive about Cornell being founded by Umich faculty. I didn’t know that.</p>
<p>I’m understand and actually agree with most of what you said. There were a few things that I perhaps don’t understand. </p>
<p>1.You said…“I think you overstate the University of Michigan’s commitment to educate the people of Michigan and its inability to be as selective as private universities.”</p>
<p>Isn’t Michigan obligated to accept about 70% or so in-state? That seems like a huge commitment to me. What exactly do you mean by your statement. It also seems counter-intuitive to think that with such a commitment, Michigan acceptance rate and selectivity would not be as favorable as other private schools. By the way, I don’t have a problem with this. The public of the state of Michigan has paid into the University for about 200 years. I would even question whether or not USnews should be placing as high a value on student selectivity and acceptance rate given that the public Universities play a different role than private Universities.</p>
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<p>^^ In the past decade, U-M has averaged 65% in-state and 35% out-of-state. </p>
<p>Among most top public universities (UVA, UNC, UCs, etc.), U-M accepts fewer in-state students. Even Michigan’s other public universities tend to be over 85% in-state students.</p>
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<p>I mean, its not as annoying as Ring-of-fire’s posts, but it does get too repetitive. This was especially annoying because the thread title took up so much space on the home page, and the fact that everytime you say Michigan, you put Ann Arbor besides it as well. I found it annoying, but never bothered to say anything about it because it didn’t annoy me THAT much. It’s only when bearcats brought it up that I commented on it. Chill! :-)</p>
<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-michigan-ann-arbor/736746-how-university-michigan-ann-arbor-political-science-major.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-michigan-ann-arbor/736746-how-university-michigan-ann-arbor-political-science-major.html</a></p>
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Yeah I sometimes do drop/ question if I should the Ann Arbor in my post, but I’ve gotten very use to typing it and so countinue. Also at my school all if not most students make it clear on which university they are talking about… University of Michigan- Ann Arbor since University of Michigan- Flint, and University of Michigan- Dearborn is just as popular, and this is just also a commonly mention way at my school (example: "Oh which campus, Ann Arbor?).</p>
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<p>After all, the forum name is University of Michigan- Ann Arbor.</p>
<p>Very nerdy, we say this at our school a lot, but here’s a stretch.
How about U(M) :), like f(x), f of x, u of m, like the university is a function of Michigan. Hah, I know pretty nerdy/irrelevant :).</p>
<p>When you’re talking to someone in person - family relatives, friends, or people that don’t know much about colleges, then it would make sense to say Ann Arbor next to UM. But on a college forum like this where people know college names like its their religion, saying University of Michigan - Ann Arbor all the time is unnecessary and kind of annoying to read over and over again. Thus, people just say Michigan or UM or U(M) like above. Likewise, on other forums people say Penn for University of Pennsylvania and PSU (if its a branch campus they say PSU - Berks, Altoona or whatever). UM Flint and Dearborn are not as popular as Ann Arbor, so if people are talking about those two schools, then it makes sense to say UM -Dearborn or UM-Flint.</p>
<p>The average person in Michigan knows that when you say “I’m going to Michigan” that you’re referring to the Ann Arbor campus. Otherwise, students would say Michigan-Dearborn or Michigan-Flint. Outside the state, most people think (and have only heard of) the Ann Arbor campus. So “Michigan” is sufficient.</p>
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<p>I have noticed this “quirky” thing about you … actually it’s more than I “noticed” because every time I read a post that has this more than once, I know it was written by you. Now, it’s not annoying or anything really that bad, so in your defense, I don’t know why everyone’s making a big deal out of it, but it is quite unnecessary since the school is so well known in this state … even in this country.</p>
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<p>Ha ha ha … may I ask what we should call this religion, native only to CC?</p>
<p>Now let’s assume that I understand your post (because it is a very hard thing. I dont know why you would need to read other people’s post several times before you understand. The only posts that I have to read and reread and reread before I understand are your posts, and you never fail to make your wordings more complicated/flawed as they need to be). </p>
<p>University of Michigan is the official name of the university on the charter, and the university refers to itself as University of Michigan in publications, and also its own website. So I dont know why you have to constantly say UM-AA. It’s like those typical Moo U grads with their inferior complex constantly refer to Michigan as University of Ann Arbor in football forums because they can’t accept the fact that WE ARE the representative of the state.</p>
<p>“I never have encountered as many more ridiculous cc users as I have under the University of Michigan- Ann Arbor forum, seriously”</p>
<p>how does “as many more ridiculous cc users” work logically? I can understand:
- I have never encountered as many ridiculous cc users
- I have never encountered more ridiculous cc users</p>
<p>but “I have never encountered as many more ridiculous cc users”
more ridiculous than what?</p>
<p>Same old same old. Take a logic class or a reading comprehension/writing class at Moo U. Actually you might need both</p>
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<p>idk. if you can be more creative, go for it. :-)</p>
<p>i pick University of Michigan - Ann Arbor - ism . I see it so much on CC these days it might not annoy me anymore one day. It also reminds me of the inferior complex of typical Lansing residents, which is very cool.</p>
<p>4 would work for Coolbreeze (no offense)</p>
<p>But 2 sounds great for me … it sounds like a disease</p>
<p>I wonder why Coolbreeze doesn’t have anything next to Michigan under Location on his profile information (like Ann Arbor, Lansing or wherever he is in Michigan). Kind of an irony isn’t it?</p>
<p>LOL at the post below.</p>
<p>I might go to Michigan State University- East Lansing this football season to watch the football game. Please tell me how to get to Michigan State University - East Lansing because I dont want to get lost on the way to Michigan State University - East Lansing.</p>
<p>I really hope University of Michigan - Ann Arbor beat Michigan State University - East Lansing this season even though that happens every 5 out of 6 games so it is an expected result anyway. I hope I dont get beaten up by Michigan State University - East Lansing fans by calling them Michigan State University - East Lansing constantly like (FUMBLE!!! Michigan State University - East Lansing… Three and out! Michigan State University - East Lansing… Interception! Michigan State University -East Lansing). I hope they dont get annoyed when I say Michigan State University - East Lansing just like I get annoyed when people constantly say University of Michigan - Ann Arbor. I also hope that the consistent use of Michigan State University - East Lansing does not annoy Mr. Coolbreeze because he is the smartest person I’ve seen in a while and his posts surely sound REALLY REALLY REALLY smart all the time</p>
<p>Let’s call that Coolbreeze-ism shall we? </p>
<p>OK, but seriously I feel like we’re taking this a bit too far … hopefully when he signs on the next time he’ll get it and he’ll change.</p>