<p>St Pauls sent out word today to those on their waitlist that they have full enrollment.</p>
<p>@grx I did walk a mile in their(our) shoes. Actually, a lot more than a mile. Take however much I walk a day and multiply it by 365.</p>
<p>Give the AOâs a little leeway. Iâm not saying theyâre perfect, but I am saying that they do their best. If they make mistakes, understand that theyâre human too.</p>
<p>You miss the point. </p>
<p>Well, your point seemed like crucifying these admission officers because they made a few mistakes.</p>
<p>If I missed it, please clarify.</p>
<p>I was not crucifying anyone. I think you can leave hyperbole out of it. I realize the AOâs are human. People were only venting. I think that many would like to know if they even have a chance. They expressed frustration that they could not obtain a straightforward answer like âWe are glad to offer you a spot in the Class of etc.â I do not think you can hold it against anyone who does not enjoy the admission purgatory(to borrow your imagery) they find themselves in on wait list/wait pool.</p>
<p>The problem here is that the AOs have no idea who has a chance. Within that waitpool falls a million categories which the kids on it fall into- URM, legacy, FA/FP, athlete, musician, etc. If an accepted kid denies the acceptance, the AOs search for a similar kid to keep the class balanced. Itâs because of that that they canât tell you who is where on the waitlist- itâs not a list, and they have no idea. Things come back all the time. Just because there isnât aid to be had right now doesnât mean there wonât be in August. Things are incredibly uncertain right now, and it depends on the circumstances of the waitpool and your applicant combined. Besides, these schools are under insane pressure to keep their admissions quiet. They donât want people knowing who gets in or denied until M10, and they donât like to tell you where you are on the waitlist. Itâs protocol, not the Loomis AOs.</p>
<p>I am not sure that is all true. I am not an AO so I could not say with certainty that when an athlete declines that the spot would be filled by a similar athlete on the WL. Most of what is written here is speculation. The frustration expressed is because no clear answer is given. I was just commenting that you canât hold it against those with no acceptances and only WL/Wait pool. Just like in college admissions I am sure there are applicants who would like to go out and buy that t-shirt/cap for their school. Some may already have them from their revisit days. The reality for most is that WL is a rejection. I would not begrudge anyone facing that truth the right to vent about the process.</p>
<p>Hyperboles are fun. But your rant on the other thread was quite harsh. I donât think that it was a hyperbole, more metaphorical.</p>
<p>Iâm not holding anything against anyone, and itâs not that I donât understand how bad rejections/waitlists are. But it is unfair to criticize the admissions officers because you were waitlisted or rejected. When I got rejected last year, I didnât go and âventâ about the admissions officers. Itâs normal to feel frustrated, but itâs not fair to take it out on the AOâs who, in their own way, try to do the best for their school.</p>
<p>Iâm not begrudging anyone the right to vent about the process. What I find wrong is being angry with the AOs- itâs not their fault that prep schools are traditionally more secretive about their admissions and your placement in such circumstances. Every school acts like this- itâs not just Loomis Chaffee. I feel itâs okay to vent about the idea that you donât have information, just not that itâs one specific person or organizationâs fault when itâs not.</p>
<p>@pdl100â I think weâre on the same page here. :)</p>
<p>Yes you are both way off the mark. I do not think you read my original thread correctly. It was a warning about what can happen and the lack of professionalism by one AO.</p>
<p>I wasnât really remarking on your posts all the way- your post is completely understandable. Instances where the admissions office is actually way off the mark is definitely a cause for concern and should be looked into. But there are people on this thread bashing schoolsâ admissions offices for not giving out enough or reliable information. Thatâs more what I was referring to- sorry if that was taken the wrong way.</p>
<p>The other guy included you in his thinking. I am not offended. I was just pointing out othersâ situations. Wish you the best and I will leave this WL to others.</p>
<p>I guess Iâm the âother guyâ. Itâs nice that your thread wasnât meant to be a bash on AOâs, but Iâm sure you can understand how it could be taken that way.</p>
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This I agree with.</p>
<p>Please go back and read my original thread. If you submit and complete an application and have paid the fee than you are entitled to a review of your application in a timely fashion. If said application is submitted prior to the deadline you expect that you will be considered for admission not WL. The thread is about the pitfalls of not hounding an AO. </p>
<p>And as I acknowledged, I understand that your thread wasnât meant to be a bash on AOâs. But Iâm still sure people could take it that way, itâs a logical conclusion to come to.</p>
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<p>If this late applicant has an incredible profile/hook (e.g., URM Olympic class swimmer from Idaho w 90% SSAT), the school would find FA money so fast your head would spinâŠ</p>
<p>IMHO: Regret the doors are rapidly closing as the schools complete their admissions for Fall 2014. What remains will be last minute withdrawals along with unfortunate unknowns which will barely total two dozen spots historically across the entire spectrum. Further to my post on the 2014 Acceptance Rates, there is definitely a large increase in applicants and especially girls. The applicant pool is without a doubt stronger and more competent each year. There simply are not enough beds for all the willing and capable kids out there. </p>
<p>On a side note; this exasperating perennial obsession of school tier really needs a permanent demise and serves no purpose for this particular board other than to say my Dad is better than your Dad. Almost all these schools meet over the Summer, 10-20 at a time in some cases and this issue of ranking is absurd and does not come into play. </p>
<p>What GMT said is very true and Iâll add just one more thing to keep in mind: If a school sends out a notice saying their WL is closed, it doesnât mean that theyâve thrown their WL away and will never (ever) draw from it. Unless youâve formally removed yourself from the WL you are still on it and you just never know. When someone here on CC tells you itâs over (school is over enrolled, the fat lady sang and itâs completely hopeless, etc.) , that isnât necessarily always true- stranger things have happened. Never take your name off a WL unless you are absolutely certain you will not enroll. Iâm not offering false hope to anyone but unless the Director of Admissions told you point blank over the phone to move on- you are still a viable candidate on their WL now thru September. </p>
<p>I would still make other plans for next year and live your life but I wouldnât let someone here on CC tell you when you should move on or how you should feel. Iâve never had to deal with a WL, but Iâve sat across the table from people who have. Itâs very painful and the last thing they need is an argument when all they want to do is vent. A little compassion from people ( especially from those who have an acceptance in hand) would be really nice. Starting threads to announce WL closures is also pointless and doesnât help either, but people can do whatever they want. That is just my opinion⊠take it or leave it. </p>
<p>If youâre on a WL, please know you have a lot of support here if you need it. 
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<p>My apologies for hijacking this thread. I understand the immense pressure that goes with being an AO and iâm not taking shots at them personally. I just believe that in any business there should be a consistent, clear and unified messaging to the public, whether youâre speaking to an Admin Asst or a VPâŠdeveloping a communications plan should be central to any admissions office. Maybe iâm naive, but i donât believe for a minute that AOs do not have instantaneous access to WL information and Iâm in the camp that says if youâre on the list you should be privy to information such as how many others are on the list in your categoryâŠI donât think thatâs asking too much, but maybe iâm wrong.</p>