There is more to uchicago than this website is letting on...

<p>haha, yeah, my 666th post has a reference of such in Brandeis...</p>

<p>After explaining this though, I am no longer satanic...</p>

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95% = an A, or A+ in this case, is not as generous as a 95% = a B+ is stingy (at least from my point of view). I don't recall which class it was, I will ask.

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<p>idad,</p>

<p>A/A+ for 95% is actually pretty typical. I was an engineering major and most of my exams had the mean around 70s% and they were usually not straight forward like the ones given in high school including SAT IIs/APs. As for your son's class, that must not be typical even for UC. Either the exam was so easy that the curve totally skewed to the right with many scoring 95+ or the prof was, like you said, stingy. Either way, it's a bad grading system because if 95 is B+, then maybe 97 is A- and 99 is A? But the difference between 99% and 95% is simply too small to justify the difference in grades.</p>

<p>I lived in Chicago. The area around The U of Chicago is awesome. I have a few friends who go there and enjoy it. I was going to apply but I cant stand the laws in Chicago and the fact that I have a history there. I ended up at Southern Illinois University and am transfering out of here. It is a great school and the area is awesome. However I would kill myself if I lived there becasue I want to get out of the house and as far from Chicago as possible. I lived there for 22 years and feel its time to move on. However Chicago is an awesome city. Great food, great parks, theateres, museums, and women. The downside is the gun laws, the crime, and the Cubs. But everyone has different priorities.</p>

<p>The gun laws and smoking ban are draconian - **** that.</p>

<p>Sam Lee: I agree. A curve based on a spread so small is meaningless. My S took it all very good naturedly, and said next time he will just have to "do better." He just chalked it up to another U of C story. Which someday, given the right occasion, I may post a few on the board. I've some great one's.</p>

<p>I'm a big fan of de facto 90/80/70/60</p>

<p>My grand daughter is about to begin her PhD at U Chicago. Her mother, my daughter would like to know if Chicago is liberal, as is Berkley. Could someone please reply to this query at</p>

<p><a href="mailto:raykornele@myway.com">raykornele@myway.com</a></p>

<p>Thanks for any help yu can give me.</p>

<p>KKK, UofC is not nearly as liberal as Berkley-I'm sure you're glad to here that... </p>

<p>idad, another parent, or a current student probably has a better perspective on the political spectrum at UofC; thus, I will let them respond. in addition, if someone chooses to send their response to KKK's email address, please post it on here as well.</p>

<p>Students at Chicago tend to be liberal, some very liberal, but the school is very tolerant of all points of view. Debate is encouraged and there is no ostracism for being conservative or liberal. There is not PC overkill; one can even sell t-shirts that say: "U of C, where the squirrels are cuter than the girls," and its corresponding shirt, "where the squirrels are more aggressive than the boys." (Both of which are not true, but points to the school's sense of humor ...well I did see a U of C squirrel stare down, and not back off from a pit bull this past fall.) </p>

<p>Also there is this from the WSJ:</p>

<p>"It is no exaggeration to say that Chicago laid the intellectual foundation for the conservative ascendancy and nurtured the ideas that now drive the debate over economic policy, legal theory and foreign affairs. The key ideas of the so-called Reagan Revolution, including monetarism and deregulation, trace their origins back to the free-market theorizing of Chicago's economics department. (One striking measure of the department's clout: Of the 55 economists awarded the Nobel Prize since 1969, when economics was added to the roster, 10 have taught at Chicago and an additional 13 either trained at Chicago or had previously taught there...)"</p>

<p>It also gave us Seymour Hersh and sociology.</p>

<p>No ostracism for being conservative? Try the Friends of Israel's posters and flyers getting torn down within 24 hours of getting put up and occasionally defaced with swastikas. Liberals are morally bankrupt.</p>

<p>I really appreciate the help. Although the answers tend to
vary somewhat, I am sure everyone is sincere. For that,
thank you all. I am sure they can sort it out from the
answers.</p>

<p>There will always be among thousands of young students those who do what you describe. In my S's dorm there are students who have a wide range of political viewpoints, they all get along and support one another.</p>

<p>"Liberals are morally bankrupt."</p>

<p>I'm sorry, but since when has nazism been equated with liberalism? That's absurd.</p>

<p>I'd agree with saying that nazism is radical, but that liberals are morally bankrupt is "absurd" and those liberals that are do such in reaction of conversative domination.</p>

<p>Conservative domination? On college campuses? Are you joking?
<a href="http://www.brainwashing101.com%5B/url%5D"&gt;www.brainwashing101.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>No, no. I was talking about the conservative domination in the United States in general. Campuses are a haven for liberal ideas.</p>

<p>neverborn- Maybe you should reevaluate with whom the problem lies. You say that conservatives are ostracized due to their political beliefs and in the same post you state that liberals are morally bankrupt. Who's the one who's generalizing based on politics?
College is supposed to challenge your ideas. It's supposed to expose you to different beliefs and perspectives and force you to reevaluate everything. If you go into it with this "us against them" mentality, than you're only hurting yourself.</p>

<p>gambadent: Ever seen an anti-war protest? We aren't the ones drawing swastikas on "College Democrats" flyers.</p>

<p>Again, I don't see what your point is. I never refered to a collective "you" and yet you maintain that this divide exists- that we're all split into these two warring camps- liberals and conservatives.
Of course there are going to be certain people with this hostile attitude towards anyone whose beliefs differ from their own- I just don't see why that should force you to behave in the same manner.<br>
For the most part, we're just a bunch of confused individuals filled with good intentions who are trying to find the best path. If you insist upon closing yourself off from other ideas, then how do you expect to grow?</p>

<p>"Political tags - such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth - are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire." -- Robert A. Heinlein</p>