Think about lying in your APPs?

<p>... or "cheating" in that matter</p>

<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blair_Hornstine%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blair_Hornstine&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gina_Grant%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gina_Grant&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaavya_Viswanathan%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaavya_Viswanathan&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>I mean I'm obsessed with admissions/colleges, but these people... jeez. Doing all this for a stupid college admission?</p>

<p>haha i read all three stories..that is pretty hilarious</p>

<p>i was entertained</p>

<p>crazy people -___-</p>

<p>Wow, I found the second one outrageous -- KILLING your own mother and then using "dead parents" as a HOOK to get into Harvard? What the hell were these people thinking?</p>

<p>The irony is that my sister brought home that Opal Mehta book LAST NIGHT and we listened to a few chapters of it on tape...</p>

<p>Weeeeird.</p>

<p>I thought the book has already been pulled from the shelves...</p>

<p>She got it from our library... so I don't think they would pull it from there?</p>

<p>ive heard of the 1st, and of course the 3rd. who would want to lie anyway. youd always feel guilty and like you didn't belong.</p>

<p>that girl in the middle who got into harvard ED after concealing that she murdered her mother...oh my god! she ended up at tufts! why would such a good school admit a murderer!</p>

<p>Question, when a school asks what other colleges are you applying to, do you have to answer all of them?
Is that lying if you only answer the ones you applied early?</p>

<p>Just think about the other people who lied and DIDN'T get caught. Now that makes your blood boil. ;)</p>

<p>I truly believe colleges catch most of the applicants that lie. None of these people directly lied about stuff that HYP could fact-check by themselves. </p>

<p>However, if you have no chance of getting into HYP anyway, it might be worth it to lie, increasing your chances of getting in.</p>

<p>i go to the school that blair hornstine went to...everyone pretty much hated her. she had the audacity to sue the school. its not like she even would have been salutatorian, as thats TERRIBLE :p, but she wouldve just shared valadictorian with a legit smart guy. well in the end i think she won the case (*** is wrong with our courts!?), but harvard dug deep and kicked her out for plagarism. guess where the salutatorian is right now? harvard. guess where blair is. hiding :D gotta love karma</p>

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Question, when a school asks what other colleges are you applying to, do you have to answer all of them?

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<p>Such a question is supposed to be optional. It has been in all the app's I've seen anyway. The advice I've always heard is NOT to answer at all.</p>

<p>I've filled out a lot of applications before; many do not even ask for it.</p>

<p>The particularly sad story about Gina Grant is that while she had killed her mother, her mother had been severely abusive to her, and that abuse apparently led to Gina's murdering her. After Gina got considerable psychological treatment, she was released from the hospital and applied to Harvard and got in on the strength of her strong academic record and presumably a good interview. My guess is that if she had told the truth on the application, Harvard would have admitted her.</p>

<p>Tufts did admit her after Harvard revoked her admission. They put her in a single room as a freshman. </p>

<p>This is from a Yale Daily News story that was written during her freshman year:</p>

<p>"Tufts freshman Mark Wasliewski said Grant's impressive high school academic record should speak for itself. </p>

<p>"She is an asset to our community. Obviously, to go through a very competitive school like she did and receive the honors that she did, she has to be very talented," Wasliewski said.</p>

<p>"She was very sweet and open," said Delich of Grant, whom she met on the first day back. "The impression that I had gotten from the media was that she was a cold, evil person. I really expected her to slam the door in my face. But, she didn't. I felt comfortable sitting on her bed talking with her."</p>

<p>Seems to me that she has had a very difficult life, and as she moves on, I wish her well.</p>

<p>Well I didn't kill my mother, so I suppose that's a plus.</p>

<p>OK, if I had killed my Mom, I probably would have lied on the apps, too. It's funny how depending on the situation, a person who confronts their abusive parents is either seen as a hero or villian. Oh, the power of the media.</p>

<p>Kinda twisted how she used it as a 'hook', though. Then again, who knows, she was probably just trying to cover up.</p>

<p>Yeah, I guess... you can view it both ways. I mean, anyone who murders anyone has some psychological problem who needs to get treatment. But then again, it's murder... so...</p>

<p>If you're a 14 year old girl who murders, you likely need either psychological treatment, or you're a psychopath.</p>

<p>There's very little mentally wrong with a hitman, for example. They just don't care if they kill people.</p>

<p>Link to an interesting London Times article on Gina Grant: <a href="http://www.maryellenmark.com/text/magazines/london_sunday_times/904G-000-015.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.maryellenmark.com/text/magazines/london_sunday_times/904G-000-015.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Here's a tidbit:
"Who is Gina Grant? Round and about rural Lexington Count South Carolina, where she grew up, there are plenty of good folk who will tell you that Gina was just the nicest teenager you could hope to meet. She was not only smart, an honours student, but cute, pretty and popular, she was a cheerleader and a star in the school tennis team. It was a shame, yes, a cryin' shame, what happened to her.</p>

<p>But there are some citizens of Lexington who will tell you, perhaps with a slow shake of the head, that Gina is far, very far, from the blonde sweetheart that everyone seems to think she is. They say she is a cunning manipulative young woman who literally got away with murder.</p>

<p>"I think she committed a carefully planned and particularly brutal murder," says the Lexington County sheriff James Metts, whose own daughter was in the same class as Gina at school, "and I think she knew all along that she would get away with it."</p>

<p>Gina Grant is the American teenager who was recently propelled to the centre of a national debate on the limits of retribution and redemption when an offer of early admission to Harvard, one of America's most illustrious universities, was suddenly withdrawn after it was discovered that she had been less than candid about her background on her application form. Gina had neglected to mention that at the age of 14 she had battered her mother to death with a crystal candlestick.</p>

<p>The university issued a po faced statement explaining that it had the right to rescind admission if a student "engages in behaviour that brings into question honesty, maturity or moral character" It seems that Gina told an interview board that her mother had died "in an accident"'.</p>