<p>lets get something goin</p>
<p>That's because everyone who has submitted early action apps are waiting and it's a little too early for regular decision apps.</p>
<p>25 days until December 15 :)</p>
<p>10 days until December 1st when my first round of graduate school applications are due :(</p>
<p>ya... i cant wait to hear all of the happiness when the acceptance letters come in.... good luck on the apps mike</p>
<p>28 days till Dec 19 the final notification date</p>
<p>You are so on the money, chillin! Everyone is in hold-your-breath mode, as their applications are already in. </p>
<p>Personally, I cope by googling information I already know, looking for the link that says, "yep, you're daughter is in like Flynn." I've yet to find it, but that hasn't stopped me from looking anyway.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, there are still those posting chances messages. You know, the kids with the 36 ACT's, 1st in class, three varsity sports, spend 40 hours a week helping homeless children tie their shoelaces and rescuing puppies, babies and other helpless beings. When I get to feeling bad about my own kid's chances, it does my heart good to go the Harvard boards, where the obsessiveness reigns at fever pitch and aspiring Crimsonites ruminate about their paltry 2385's and wonder aloud whether the 10 clubs in which they serve as president are enough to tip the balance.</p>
<p>It could be worse! :) (If that's not optimistism, what is?! ;))</p>
<p>Seriously, head on over to Harvard's site and lurk for a while, and you will feel positively...normal!</p>
<p>Is my daughter's dual citizenship USA - Ireland worth mentioning for Notre Dame, or not? SHe spent all of her summers in Ireland with family growing up. I don't know if they get a lot of that at Notre Dame.</p>
<p>I'd think it would be a great thing very much worth mentioning. The fact that your daughter has been exposed to the value, culture, and lifestyle of two distincts nations, I'd think, would add tremendous value to her education. The fact that the other nation is Ireland, of all places, doesn't hurt, either, in a place where there are pages of the student phone book devoted strictly to the O-apostrophe crowd! :)</p>
<p>A friend of mine made a very good point about the Notre Dame experience. It isn't just what is learned from the classroom, but from the fellow students. The more substantive they are as people, the more experiences they bring to the table, the better the educational experience becomes for everyone.</p>
<p>No one seems to want to jump on the Harvard train! Seriously, it's fun to lurk over there. Makes me feel like maybe I'm not totally off the wall obsessive--at least in comparison. Sort of like how watching Jerry Springer makes me feel like that much more of an upstanding citizen... :)</p>
<p>We need to laugh a little bit! This is wayyyy too uptight!</p>
<p>DDJones007 - Thanks so much for that reply. You and your friend both made excellent points. It is easy to become obsessed with GPAs and SAT scores and forget about the individuals and how broad their horizons may be, and how they can enhance the academic environment in a different way.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, it is the numbers which can be standardized to apply across the board to all schools and geographic areas. In the ND application process, we are forced to condense the complexities of a human being into three pages of quantifiable stats. </p>
<p>The stats, though, are just one piece of the equation. The hope of the admissions people is not just to admit a class of the brightest--the whole pile is full of people with high stats--but also the best. When I say the best, I mean the best person.</p>
<p>The greatest thing about Notre Dame is its people. I learned so much more outside of the classroom there than I ever did within it. </p>
<p>Just too bad we forgot all those great solutions to all the world's problems we were convinced would work...at least we were at the age of 20, at 2 o'clock in the morning at LaFortune, when we were supposed to be studying for something else :)...</p>
<p>Haha...just the fact that you were trying to solve the world's problems at LaFortune at the age of 20, instead of other unmentionable things you could have been trying...speaks well of the UND experience!
I would imagine it must be hard for admissions officers to weed out those who are the best fit simply based on what is on paper. Here's another question, if you don't mind: Is it possible for someone to have stellar ECs (some of which are extremely unique), strong GPA out of a tough Catholic high school, excellent recs, but not the highest SAT and still get admitted? (Excludingt legacy, URM, recruit, etc.) Have you ever known anyone in a situation like that?</p>
<p>I don't know what you mean by the highest SAT... I think it must pose a big challenge to the admissions committee, trying to glean the best student body it can from a bunch of stacks of paper. My son knows of non-legacy non-athlete 29's on ACT's. Midwesterners aren't as conversant in the SAT...</p>
<p>LaFortune and the lakes... Nothing like a power walk at night around the lakes, debating the future of the world... Although, to be honest, can't say there weren't <em>any</em> unmentionble things that went on :)...we just won't mention them!</p>
<p>Seriously, it is an incredible place. I personally believe the stellar and unique EC's, the great recs, the high grades, count for an awful lot...</p>
<p>Thanks again. In all the college threads I have viewed, none of the alumni have the level of passion about their school that notre dame alums do. I really find it amazing. It almost sounds as though there is a certain "energy" that is unique to Notre Dame. Wish I could bottle it! I'd be a millionaire.</p>
<p>There is more than energy, there is love. There is something about the spiritual undercurrent of the place that makes it like family, even for those, like me, who didn't practice my faith pretty much the whole time I was there. It is inexplicable. Most amazing about it is that it grows over time, well after graduation--perhaps most of the growth takes place after graduation. Tightly knit Notre Dame alumni are bonded by more than a common identity and career network; they are not living in the past. It is a place that can be experienced fully throughout one's lifetime. I'm convinced that's why they retain the legacy factor preference--they want to keep that inexplicable energy and bond going.</p>
<p>Obviously, I'm keen to the place :)</p>
<p>Actually, I love it and appreciate even more as the parent of a current student than I did as a student myself.</p>
<p>I wish the best of luck to your daughter!</p>
<p>Thank you. That was really inspiring.</p>
<p>" You know, the kids with the 36 ACT's, 1st in class, three varsity sports, spend 40 hours a week helping homeless children tie their shoelaces and rescuing puppies, babies and other helpless beings. "</p>
<p>hahahahh wow... thanks for the good laugh</p>
<p>here's a question for domers: If your kid did not get into Notre Dame, what would be the next best school, in your opinion?</p>