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well he probably worked as hard athletically as you worked academically. Whoever said colleges accept students based only on academics? If they need athletes they'll accept athletes over scholars.
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i think its pretty fair - people are given different gifts and in the end its whatever gets you there. so what if he goes there for being athletically gifted, others are going for being academically gifted. would you get in there if you werent smart? no would he get in there if he wasnt athletic? no</p>
<p>stop complaining
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Sums it up. People are different. Just because you hate football (not necessarily referring to anyone here), doesn't mean others don't - I love playing/watching football, and I sure as hell would prefer an amazing football athlete as a classmate attending the school as opposed to another academic smart person, diversity, difference, get over it.</p>
<p>if all people were born just to compete for SATs and GPAs and whatnot....well, lets just say the world would be a much more boring place, shall we? xD</p>
<p>I think that its totally fair that a person who plays football and is just below another in terms of academics gets into an academy as opposed to a bookworm who did no sports but did just slightly better in academics than the football player. </p>
<p>I do Tae Kwon Do and let me say that after every tournament I feel out of breath and can't concentrate on homework, preferring to vege instead. How football players play sports and still get really good grades is beyond me. </p>
<p>However, I do find it unfair when football player who is, say, 75% as good as another student who doesn't play football gets the upper hand, if you know where I'm going here. If they're at a disparity only slightly, its fair, but when its major, it totally isn't.</p>
<p>True situation:
There is a swimmer at my school, and he does not have the greatest grades. However he got into a really good university by recruitment. Like ***!! right? so unfair! </p>
<p>I study hard, get high scores on my tests, and sleep late because of my AP classses!
All he does is wake up 4 AM everyday to swim 2 hours before school, swim and lift weights for more hours after school and return home at around 8pm to finish his easy "non AP" hw. Ridiculous huh. </p>
<p>Point: Your an ignorant bastard. Athletics is as tough, if not tougher than academics. I play a sport myself (water polo) and I can easily say that participating in it takes more time and energy than all my AP classes combined. So please shut up for being the little inactive nerd you are.</p>
<p>^ (if you are referring to me)
I have never said at any time in this thread that athletics is easier than academics. I started this thread by saying someone who excels in sports and gets, say, mostly C's/B's and low test scores, screws around all the time, gets automatic admission to a great university plus scholarship. I wanted to find out if people thought that this type of person is equal to the student who studies and takes a lot of AP's.</p>
<p>I do a sport too and although i'm in no way competitive for recruitment I enjoy it and of course it takes up time. </p>
<p>You need to make sure you know what you're talking about before you post completely off-topic posts in threads.</p>
<p>Not only will this guy have an advantage over you in college admissions, he will when you both seek jobs too. Accomplished athletes are in great demand by employers. Their singleminded pursuit of excellence on the playing firld is every bit as much of an accomplishment as high grades. Get over it!</p>
<p>And at a state school that can take dozens from a single high school, it really won't matter in your case anyway.</p>
<p>Woojoo, that's a bit harsh. there are physically and athletically oriented people, then there are mentally and academically oriented people. Yes, Noob should get over the fact that athletes have advantages, but you shouldn't call him a bastard nor an inactive nerd for who he is.</p>
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I have never said at any time in this thread that athletics is easier than academics. I started this thread by saying someone who excels in sports and gets, say, mostly C's/B's and low test scores, screws around all the time, gets automatic admission to a great university plus scholarship.
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I don't know how much of this is common/true, I certainly don't see it happen too much, and what you see as "screwing around" is probably distorted. Having some fun, chilling = screwing around all the time? He probably works hard for sports, and if not, well, he's talented in sports...which brings me to: geniuses.</p>
<p>Since you don't seem to understand the athletics perspective, let's take this from an academic standpoint.</p>
<p>I know a LOT of people (you'd know a couple of these, they're at virtually every school) that screw around all day but get straight A's in like all AP classes, high SAT without studying, etc. They have to spend 30 minutes on something to ace the equivalent of a normal person's 6 hours. That makes it so much easier. </p>
<p>That's essentially what seems "unfair", the ability/talent of the people and not the actual result or anything; the genius has a lot of credentials, it doesn't matter how many hours he put into (in terms of admissions). It's more like a general, one of many unfair things in life. But a lot of non-genius but hardworking students still succeed in getting into many colleges, and there's so many "unfair" things to complain about that it becomes trivial.</p>
<p>hahaha...i'm a big crusder for anti-anti-intellectualism in this country</p>
<p>but i think athletes don't deserve bs about life being unfair. They work very hard to do what they do, and I would think that if anything, a sports recruitment is MORE competitive than an "academic" recruitment (i.e. regular admission)</p>
<p>The funny thing about this is that a D-1 athlete is almost always better at what they do (their sport) than most of the other students are at what they do (academics).</p>
<p>Someone that gets a scholarship to play D-1A football is almost certainly in the top 2 or 3 thousand high school football players in the country. Meanwhile, someone that is in the top 10 at their school might not be in the top 10,000 in their state (if they live in a big state). The point is that there are always more good students out there, but someone good enough to play D-1 sports is rare.</p>
<p>It's completely fair guys. And I am not a athlete. </p>
<p>Do any of you know how much hard work an athlete has to put into training in order to get recruited to a "good" university? The same, if not more, than a student with straight A's and 2300 SAT puts into studying. Trust me. I have a lot of friends who are athletes. How else are athletes supposed to go Pro? They all have to go through collegiate sports first. </p>
<p>Also, sports are so big in some universities that the revenue earned by the athletic programs contribute to academic departments of colleges as well.</p>