Thomas Sowell: Where Is The West?

<p>A very thought-provoking (and alarming) column from the American economist and political thinker Thomas Sowell. From TownHall.com...</p>

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<p>WHERE IS THE WEST?</p>

<p>By Thomas Sowell</p>

<p>Thursday, November 9, 2006</p>

<p>European nations protesting Saddam Hussein's death sentence, as they protested against forcing secrets out of captured terrorists, should tell us all we need to know about the internal degeneration of western society, where so many confuse squeamishness with morality. </p>

<p>Two generations of being insulated from the reality of the international jungle, of not having to defend their own survival because they have been living under the protection of the American nuclear umbrella, have allowed too many Europeans to grow soft and indulge themselves in illusions about brutal realities and dangers. </p>

<p>The very means of their salvation have been demonized for decades in anti-nuclear movements and protesters calling themselves "anti-war." But there is a huge difference between being anti-war in words and being anti-war in deeds. </p>

<p>How many times, in its thousands of years of history, has Europe gone 60 years without a major war, as it has since World War II? That peace has been due to American nuclear weapons, which was all that could deter the Soviet Union's armies from marching right across Europe to the Atlantic Ocean. </p>

<p>Having overwhelming military force on your side, and letting your enemies know that you have the guts to use it, is being genuinely anti-war. Chamberlain's appeasement brought on World War II and Reagan's military buildup ended the Cold War. </p>

<p>The famous Roman peace of ancient times did not come from negotiations, cease-fires, or pretty talk. It came from the Roman Empire's crushing defeat and annihilation of Carthage, which served as a warning to anyone else who might have had any bright ideas about messing with Rome. </p>

<p>Only after the Roman Empire began to lose its own internal cohesion, patriotism and fighting spirit over the centuries did it begin to succumb to its external enemies and finally collapse. </p>

<p>That seems to be where western civilization is heading today. </p>

<p>Internal cohesion? Not only does much of today's generation in western societies have a "do your own thing" attitude, defying rules and flouting authority are glorified and Balkanization through "multiculturalism" has become dogma. </p>

<p>Patriotism? Not only is patriotism disdained, the very basis for pride in one's country and culture is systematically undermined in our educational institutions at all levels. </p>

<p>The achievements of western civilization are buried in histories that portray every human sin found here as if they were peculiarities of the west. </p>

<p>The classic example is slavery, which existed all over the world for thousands of years and yet is incessantly depicted as if it was a peculiarity of Europeans enslaving Africans. Barbary pirates alone brought twice as many enslaved Europeans to North Africa as there were Africans brought in bondage to the United States and the American colonies from which it was formed. </p>

<p>How many schools and colleges are going to teach that, going against political correctness and undermining white guilt? </p>

<p>How many people have any inkling that it was precisely western civilization which eventually turned against slavery and began stamping it out when non-western societies still saw nothing wrong with it? </p>

<p>How can a generation be expected to fight for the survival of a culture or a civilization that has been trashed in its own institutions, taught to tolerate even the intolerance of other cultures brought into its own midst, and conditioned to regard any instinct to fight for its own survival as being a "cowboy"? </p>

<p>Western nations that show any signs of standing up for self-preservation are rare exceptions. The United States and Israel are the only western nations which have no choice but to rely on self-defense -- and both are demonized, not only by our enemies but also by many in other western nations. </p>

<p>Australia recently told its Muslim population that, if they want to live under Islamic law, then they should leave Australia. That makes three western nations that have not yet completely succumbed to the corrosive and suicidal trends of our times. </p>

<p>If and when we all succumb, will the epitaph of western civilization say that we had the power to annihilate our enemies but were so paralyzed by confusion that we ended up being annihilated ourselves?</p>

<p>Thomas Sowell is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institute and author of Basic Economics: A Citizen's Guide to the Economy.</p>

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<p>Summary: Conservative man is afraid of Muslim extremists, India, and China.</p>

<p>Cool. </p>

<p>Does he give speeches on civilization succumbing to Christian extremism too?</p>

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Does he give speeches on civilization succumbing to Christian extremism too?

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<p>Good point. The great leader of the West has been run, for the last eight years, by a man of suspect intelligence claiming to be led by the will of God. Worse still, his main body of supporters makes him look like an atheist. </p>

<p>An overtly Christian president who claims his actions have some relationship with God's will starts an illegal war under false pretenses, resulting in the deaths of hundreds of thousands (soldiers and civilians, but mostly civilians). This is civilization.</p>

<p>Muslim fanatics kill 3000 civilians, along with a few soldiers here and there. This is the greatest evil in the world.</p>

<p>Sowell isn't really trying to say that we're the good guys and they're the bad guys or Bush is good and the Democrats bad; his argument runs much deeper, on a larger scale that transcends all of that. He is saying this: Does Western civilization want to survive or does it want to crumble?</p>

<p>He is also saying that our civilization is showing serious symptoms of being on the way down.</p>

<p>I think you're being pretty nonresponsive to what nbachris said. </p>

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Sowell isn't really trying to say that we're the good guys and they're the bad guys or Bush is good and the Democrats bad; his argument runs much deeper, on a larger scale that transcends all of that. He is saying this: Does Western civilization want to survive or does it want to crumble?</p>

<p>He is also saying that our civilization is showing serious symptoms of being on the way down.

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Sure, but isn't he saying that our civilization is "on the way down" because of the presence of liberals? Isn't he saying that Bush doctrines are what is keeping America alive? He is arguing that Bush is good and liberals are bad; he also goes the extra mile by saying too many Democrats and not enough Bush are destroying Western civilization. I think that, based on his article, these are fairly valid conclusions of what his opinion is.</p>

<p>"Does Western civilization want to survive or does it want to crumble?"</p>

<p>Hey, that's the same deep question the guy who wrote The Turner Diaries was wondering too. I'm sorry, but self-deception rarely extends to other people. Muslim extremists, christian extremists, there is zero difference - the latter just has(hopefully had) a regular army to back it up. And yeah, a country led by the sort of idiots like the ones in that Jesus Camp documentary, would be absolutely no different from it being run by the Taliban.</p>

<p>I still think you guys are really missing the big picture here. Sowell's piece isn't pro-Republican and/or anti-Democrat, or pro-Christian and/or anti-Muslim. And for Christ's sake, it isn't about Bush.</p>

<p>It is about doing something about the fact that we are, as a whole, losing the stuff that made Western civilization what it is. We are committing suicide for no apparent reason. All of us in the West -- conservatives, liberals, religious, non-religious -- need to re-evaluate the attitudes that we have all been participating in in recent decades regarding who we are and where we are going as a civilization. Do we want to remain on top in the world? Well, that takes something, and severing our proverbial dick and balls by disarming ourselves or making passionate patriotism socially unacceptable is not doing the job.</p>

<p>Sure, but isn't he saying that our civilization is "on the way down" because of the presence of liberals? Isn't he saying that Bush doctrines are what is keeping America alive? He is not only arguing that Bush is good and liberals are bad; he also goes the extra mile by saying too many Democrats and not enough Bush are destroying Western civilization. I think that, based on his article, these are fairly valid conclusions of what his opinion is.</p>

<p>He may not explicitly use the words 'liberal' and 'conservative', but I can see a pretty clear partisan leaning in this article, can't you?</p>

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Hey, that's the same deep question the guy who wrote The Turner Diaries was wondering too. I'm sorry, but self-deception rarely extends to other people. Muslim extremists, christian extremists, there is zero difference - the latter just has(hopefully had) a regular army to back it up. And yeah, a country led by the sort of idiots like the ones in that Jesus Camp documentary, would be absolutely no different from it being run by the Taliban.

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<p>Excellent point. The term "terrorism" is defined by who is being scared. When it's the developed world is frightened, it's terrorism. When it's the rest of the world, we have buzzwords like "Operation Freedom", spreading democracy, etc.</p>

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It is about doing something about the fact that we are, as a whole, losing the stuff that made Western civilization what it is. We are committing suicide for no apparent reason. All of us in the West -- conservatives, liberals, religious, non-religious -- need to re-evaluate the attitudes that we have all been participating in in recent decades regarding who we are and where we are going as a civilization. Do we want to remain on top in the world? Well, that takes something, and severing our proverbial dick and balls by disarming ourselves or making passionate patriotism socially unacceptable is not doing the job.

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<p>I guess another round of imperialism and colonialism is in order to keep the "West" on the top and the rest of the world under?</p>

<p>And I don't understand what Sowell is talking about when he says that there's a conspiracy to keep patriotism down in the West. Who's going to argue here that there's a lack of patriotism in America? Or how about in Europe? How's that EU thing going? Aren't countries still fighting for their sovereignty? I suspect what Sowell (who's black, btw) is talking about is something that's tantamount to white pride: pride in not one's ethnicity, nationality, or even race, but pride in being part of a loosely-defined club that has most benefited from the subjugation of all "others", and is hell-bent on keeping its ill-gotten privileges.</p>

<p>The good thing about the west is that we have bombs. Lots of them. West > The evil terroristz.</p>

<p>I never thought I'd see the day that the theocrat Fides et Ratio is the one making the best arguments in a thread. Sowell is right, and for once, so is Fides et Ratio (despite being wrong in every other thread he's made.)</p>

<p>"Sure, but isn't he saying that our civilization is "on the way down" because of the presence of liberals?"</p>

<p>Not really. Sowell is speaking of a widespread, unhealthy liberalism that we all partake in today -- a way of looking at ourselves in the world that transcends party lines or "liberal" and "conservative" labels. Republicans and conservatives are most certainly NOT exempt from this attitude/behavior. If you could think outside the box for a second, you might be able to grasp this.</p>

<p>"I guess another round of imperialism and colonialism is in order to keep the "West" on the top and the rest of the world under?"</p>

<p>"... but pride in being part of a loosely-defined club that has most benefited from the subjugation of all "others", and is hell-bent on keeping its ill-gotten privileges."</p>

<p>This is EXACTLY the attitude that Sowell is talking about. You're ashamed of your civilization, guilty about its successes, about the very fact that it is on top.</p>

<p>This is EXACTLY the attitude that Sowell is talking about. You're ashamed of your civilization, guilty about its successes, about the very fact that it is on top.</p>

<p>Very few, if any, exhibit this behavior. It hardly warrants an essay from a conservative white guy or an uncle tom every week.</p>

<p>Yawn...</p>

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This is EXACTLY the attitude that Sowell is talking about. You're ashamed of your civilization, guilty about its successes, about the very fact that it is on top.

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<p>You're advocating a form of blind nationalism/jingoism/racism where the good and the bad are held up as great achievements. Nobody here is bashing democracy, scientific advances, humanitarian efforts, etc. What people are rightfully ashamed of, or at least reluctant to glorify, is a history of oppression and colonialism that the West has been engaged in for about the last 400 years. This act of transgression against the world has been its method of climbing to the top, so pardon the damned liberals if their ideals conflict with their civilization's sordid past.</p>

<p>I don't like using the term "Western values" because it reeks of Orientalism and implies that such values as freedom and justice are Western European inventions, but looking at this world of ours, it looks like "Western values" are winning. The USSR is gone, East Asia and Latin America are capitalistic and/or democratic (notable exception of Communist China), and India is capitalistic and democratic. I don't think we're going to see a sudden spike of theocratic communist Nazi regimes anytime soon. Yeah, the Middle East is about as anti-Western as they get, but once an alternative to oil is found, their clout will dissipate. </p>

<p>What people like Sowell are REALLY afraid of is not the erosion of Western values but the erosion of Western, namely American, dominance.</p>

<p>Western values are undermined? That's paranoid BS. Western Europe remains the top tourist destination because people want to marvel at its achievements.</p>

<p>I'm not advocating anything except that we recognize what we are doing, and where our civilization is going if we continue doing so. Just understand that the impact of such widespread attitudes and behaviors on civilizations is usually not peachy; the undermining of the things that got us on top is not conductive of a continuation of us being on top. If you think that the West being knocked down a few pegs on the world stage would be a good thing, then keep doing what you're doing. If not, then stop. </p>

<p>It's up to each and every one of us to make that decision.</p>

<p>The West has always used "white man's burden" as an excuse to oppressive and colonize others. Now that the others are capitalizing and democratizing and rising, maybe it was just an excuse after all, and they, except for maybe an intellectual few, had absolutely no altruistic goals at all. What a shocker.</p>

<p>Isn't one of Western civilization's lofty goals a vision of an egalitarian world? I guess in a lot of people's minds, it's an egalitarian world with the West more egalitarian than others.</p>

<p>I'm no hater of the West or some communist malcontent, but there are too many "free thinkers" and "liberals" who live comfortably in a faux-righteous Eurocentric world where anything other than American/Western European hegemony is akin to the decay of civilization.</p>

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I'm no hater of the West or some communist malcontent, but there are too many "free thinkers" and "liberals" who live comfortably in a faux-righteous Eurocentric world where anything other than American/Western European hegemony is akin to the decay of civilization.

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Many countries that aren't like Western style democracies are the decay of civilization. Saudi Arabia, Iran, North Korea, 50% of Africa, etc...</p>

<p>Or let me put it like this: Very few Western democracies are the decay of civilization. Hell, Western culture is practically the definition of civilization!</p>

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Hell, Western culture is practically the definition of civilization!

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<p>For the most part, that is true today, but to believe it has always been so is to be ignorant.</p>