<p>What is the general consensus on the Oxford Said Business School? </p>
<p>I was surprised to find it was just established in 1996 and already is the top 20 world rankings (I understand rankings do not mean much, Financial Times)</p>
<p>Also the program is one of the few 1 year programs on the list and the employment profiles for the MBA program yield average salary offers close to that of any other school on the list but requiring only 1 year of schooling (Also only 1 year of tuition and lost opportunity cost of working).</p>
<p>What am i missing? A very strong upward trend in rankings over the past 5 years (Oxford is a very strong brand name to begin with), shorter time spend on completing the degree, better link to opportunities in Europe and the Middle East (Not sure about Asia).</p>
<p>this topic has come up before, I’d advise searching for Oxford Said and Yale SOM under the MBA discussions thread (Yale SOM because it is similar to Oxford in that it has a strong brand name behind a relatively younger program on the rise).</p>
<p>Yet another completely unhelpful response by RML. The OP wasn’t asking if someone would choose Said over the best b-schools in the world. </p>
<p>LBS is one of the top 2 non-US b-schools in the world (alongside INSEAD). Of course you wouldn’t choose Said over LBS. That’s just like saying, “I can’t think of a reason for choosing Haas over HBS.” Of course you wouldn’t.</p>
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<li>Is Oxford one of the top tier b-schools in the world? No. </li>
<li>Is it a program that has risen remarkably fast considering its less than 15 years old? Absolutely. </li>
<li>Will it continue to rise? Probably. </li>
<li>Will it become one of the top tier b-schools in the world? Perhaps someday. </li>
<li>Does having a prestigious parent like Oxford help? Certainly.</li>
<li>Is it worth attending now? Depends. If your other choices are in the 20+ ranked b-schools, I would seriously consider it.</li>
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<p>Lol, rml; who said anything about LBS, seriously man what planet do u live on. Of course insead and lbs trump Said, but nobody asked about that. </p>
<p>To the original poster; oxford is indeed a bschool on the rise and the fact that it is affiliated with the great university will help it’s brand carry weight, particularly to the lay person.</p>
<p>It’s like saying, “man, I can’t think of a reason for choosing Emory over Harvard.” I hope that helps. I hope that was the hard hitting advice you were looking for. I’m out.</p>
<p>storch, seriously, dude. You are not new on this forum. You know how these Yale-SOM lovers/fanatics would argue to death to choose it over better business schools because of their parent university’s name. And, now that the_prestige is around, this discussion will go back (side track) to Yale being the best… and is going to be the next HBS, blah blah blah…</p>
<p>Oxford is great. It is one of the most prestigious universities in the world. But Oxford-Said is not that great. It does not have equal reputation to its “parent” university. The same is true for Yale. </p>
<p>Yale University = very prestigious
Yale-SOM = not as prestigious as Yale U</p>
<p>Oxford = very prestigious
Oxford-Said = not as prestigious as Oxford U</p>
<p>Yale >>> Yale SOM
Oxford >>> Said</p>
<p>So, if you’re planning on studying in the UK and you have acceptances from both LBS and Said, go to LBS. Again, if you do have that option. In other words, using LBS as a benchmark of a good business school, Said isn’t up to par. And whether or not it will become a super elite business school someday is a matter, which to me, is unpredictable.</p>
<p>That is a complete falsehood. I challenge you to find a single post I have ever written on this site that made such a claim. I never claimed that Yale SOM was the best.</p>
<p>I interact with MBAs almost everyday and I never heard anyone of them say words such as “you are a liar”… tsk tsk tsk…</p>
<p>and, yes, the_prestige, for you YaleSOM is the best. And when someone says it isn’t, you will then argue that it’s going to be. ha ha ha… you’re predictable…</p>
<p>On topic: Oxford University is famous. Oxford Said is not. It’s a good and respectable business school. But it’s not anything comparable to those top-tier business schools in America. FT ranked it way more than what it should have been.</p>
<p>Thanks for the insight. Appreciate the responses.</p>
<p>Oxford Said is not a famous business school but they have a very impressive employment profile for the last 3 graduating classes with average salaries only 8,000 USD lower than Harvard. Also the companies that are represented are the best in the world. Isn’t this the best of both worlds? Since the school is not as famous there is a better chance of getting into the school due to less applicants and a higher acceptance rate (30%+!), great opportunities, all in a 1 year program?</p>
<p>I am particularly inclined to 1 year programs because i am completing a masters degree in IE in the US at a top 25 Engineering School where i have completing all the basic MBA course work as electives which constitute the first year in most 2 year MBA programs (Financial/Managerial Accounting, Finance, Marketing, management of organizations, Managerial Stats ect…).</p>
<p>I am inclined to focus on schools within the top 20 financial times list because if i get an admittance into one of them i have an opportunity for a full scholarship.</p>
<p>I am inclined to European schools because i want to work in Consulting in Europe, Middle East (Especially), and Asia. </p>
<p>I was looking into Northwestern 1 year and Cornell 1 year but alas they fell from the top 20 within the Financial Times.</p>
<p>I understand that INSTEAD is also a 1 year program and will be most definitely applying their when the time comes.</p>
<p>My question is from the choice of 1 year programs on the list the only school that should be a clear selection over Oxford is INSTEAD if accepted for European and Middle Eastern and Asian Consulting Jobs? How about IMD and IE Business school? Thanks for the insight.</p>
<p>Wanted to clarify that the salary number difference between Harvard and Oxford is significantly higher because it was USD but was in Euros. Also the Acceptance rate number was for 2006, the 2008 profile had a 22% acceptance rate. My mistake.</p>
<p>Thanks for the spelling clarification and advice. I will plan accordingly and apply to 4-5 schools in Europe on the financial times list with INSEAD on as my school of choice, seems like a decent fit through looking at the website and watching viral videos by the dean.</p>
<p>aalba, the FT ranking is unstable. Schools’ ranking fluctuates a lot. It moves over 5 places. There were years when some schools moved over 10 places. What FT ranked number 1 two years ago may not be number 1 next year. It’s a flawed league table and quite unstable, that’s why a lot of people “in the know” do not trust the FT ranking. </p>
<p>Oxford-Said is good, but not super elite. Many of their students are not Top 9 US business schools materials. (Top 9: HSW, Kellogg, Sloan, Chicago, Haas, Tuck, Columbia) But like Yale-SOM, it has a good deal of prospects to improve leveraging on its “parent” university’s name. But at the moment, it is not yet that good. If you can afford it, attend an American business school. After all, MBA was a brainchild of the American universities, so their education pertaining to the program is still superior to European and Asian programs.</p>
<p>If you want to stick to Europe, aside from LBS and INSEAD, there’s IMD, which is also quite a respected business school in Europe. I think IMD was/is a business school for Nestle employees.</p>
<p>You make a good point about the fluctuations that occur with the FT rankings compared to other rankings such as the US News MBA rankings but what i said about scholarship opportunity holds true.</p>
<p>Where I’m from (Middle East), government scholarship opportunities for nationals are based on such rankings to tell you the truth. One such scholarship program is specifically for MBA study relies on the FT rankings. That is why 2 years ago i had Kellogg and Cornell on my list since the scholarship used to encompass the top 30 of the FT rankings but the scholarship recently reduced the list to the top 20 from the most current FT rankings. </p>
<p>The government scholarship entity that i used to get my undergraduate and graduate engineering degrees used the US News rankings.</p>
<p>There are actually job opportunities from major companies in the region that will specifically ask for top 30 or top 50 from a rankings list to apply for internship or full time position. </p>