Thoughts on Various T14s

<p>Hi,</p>

<p>If there has been a previous thread on this, I apologize, but...I was wondering if people with direct experience with any of the T14s (currently attend/attended, visited, a parent of a student, etc.) could share their thoughts on the school. The reason that I ask is that I just applied to a number of schools, but they are so geographically spread out that I doubt I'll be able to visit more than a few, so it would be great to know of other people's impressions. </p>

<p>Also, I just got accepted to Duke, so I'd especially love to hear about anyone's experience there. It's a bit of a hike for me, so I'm not sure how easily I'll be able to visit unless it really turns out to really be my first or second choice.</p>

<p>Thanks so much!</p>

<p>I did undergrad at Duke, which is not remotely the same thing as law school, but I can speak to the area (which I loved) if you have anything in mind.</p>

<p>PS: I'm also looking forward to reading this thread when -- if all goes as hoped -- decision time comes around.</p>

<p>Sure, I'd love to hear about your experience at Duke. I guess you might not know about the atmosphere at the law school, but what's the general atmosphere around campus? Also, what is the surrounding community like? Is there affordable housing near the campus?</p>

<p>I'm actually looking into Duke myself since I live in Florida and would rather stay in the Southeast at a t-14 then go Northeast somewhere. Could you tell me regional and national placement for Duke as compared to UVA, Vandy, Emory, etc.?</p>

<p>Badat, isn't it a bit early to be accepted at Duke?</p>

<p>Cbreeze, I was accepted Priority Track, which is how I found out so quickly.</p>

<p>Congratualtions Bad.</p>

<p>It must be great to know that no matter what happens, that Law School is now a reality for you. I am sure that there are many more great acceptances coming.</p>

<p>All the best.</p>

<p>S</p>

<p>ladistar - I'd say that Duke tops the list you have, with UVA a close second. The others are more regional.</p>

<p>Bad- you did Good!! (couldn't resist) Congrats. If you have some time to kill and don't take the info as gospel, you may want to go on LSD and google info on Duke. A bunch of posts will come up talking about Accepted student week-end--where to live- comparing Duke with other schools etc.<br>
Don't take info too seriously, but it may give you a feel for the place.</p>

<p>I guess more importantly, you really can't make serious decisions until you get all your acceptances, but as you were eligible for Priority Track, I think you'll have alot of good offers to choose from.</p>

<p>Also- both Jet Blue and SouthWest fly to Raleigh/Durham. so ya never know, sometimes cheap flights are available.
D went to visit UG friend at Duke last year and stayed for a few days and toured Law School. She liked it well enough to give it serious consideration, but looks like she's not applying until next year. I think Duke does well in NY market if that is a consideration for you
Good luck and Congratulations
marny</p>

<p>1.) The immediate area around West campus (where the law school is) is a forest. East Campus is in a neighborhood that isn't the greatest, but I can't imagine you'll be out there very often anyway.</p>

<p>2.) The surrounding community in Durham is poor and not all that safe, although it is residential. One obvious advantage is that there's a lot of opportunities for community service and personal growth, if you're willing to take advantage of it.</p>

<p>The town/gown tensions are somewhat overplayed, or at least misattributed. There's very little anti-Duke sentiment per se, although it's safe to say that Durham residents generally feel uncomfortable among Duke's upper-class, proper-grammar types. They feel the same way, however, about UNC, too. (It's a myth -- and a very false one -- that the locals all root for UNC. As a matter of fact, they tend to be NC State fans.)</p>

<p>I was there for the first few months of the lacrosse scandal, although not for the aftermath.</p>

<p>3.) The area beyond Durham -- say, Raleigh, Cary, etc. -- is absolutely gorgeous, beautiful, quiet, and populated by really nice people. I really loved it at Duke. (Although, I do have very low standards for civility. I grew up in Berkeley, CA, and I felt very spoiled when I wasn't having people on the street trying to read my palms or give me tattoos of "Osama Bush Laden".)</p>

<p>It's astonishing being able to drive up to the grocery store and actually park without laboring to find a spot. It's nicer still to walk in and have the clerks joke with you. I'm sure people there take for granted accomodating hostesses at restaurants, short wait times at the bank, and restaurants where the chef will decide what she thinks you'll like best -- but these were all new and very refreshing experiences for me.</p>

<p>The area is beautiful; lush, brand new, with plenty of open space and bright blue skies. The weather is warm, but with just enough of the seasons that you feel like you're getting a complete experience.</p>

<p>I don't think there's any divergence from their ranking in terms of placement, it would go 1. UVA 2. Duke 3. Vanderbilt 4. Emory. UVA and Duke are currently tied, but certainly UVA has a much stronger history of excellence, as well as a correspondingly stronger alumni network.</p>

<p>I always thought Duke was marginally more regional while UVA had more national placement... although both are t14's as far as I know and get you Vault jobs in any major market.</p>

<p>I've determined that Vandy is a good regional school but can't get you much placement outside the southeast. Now isn't Emory kind of TTT though?</p>

<p>My work is largely in DC and Duke and UVA probably run pretty even here, but it seems top of the class Duke jumps out at me over UVA. You don't go wrong with either. I don't know why Vandy doesn't play that well in DC. I have always it was underrated in this area.</p>

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Now isn't Emory kind of TTT though?

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<p>Only on CC can a school that is ranked # 22 in the country be a TTT :eek:</p>

<p>What I mean by TTT is any school not ranked within the top 14. It doesn't literally mean that it's a bad school, but at the same time it's not on par with Duke and UVA. I know over at xoxo, Emory is kind of frowned upon along with WUSTL. I don't know why seeing as they're really good schools, but that's just the way it is.</p>

<p>I think I need to take a break from reading that board.</p>

<p>If school #15 is in the "third tier", then apparently your tiers each contain eight schools?</p>

<p>no, it's just xoxo slang for any school that isn't in the t14. It can be ambiguously used. Either it can literally mean a sh1tty school in the third tier (say #167 or so) or any school that's outside the t14, the so called "holy grail" of law schools. Most people use it to describe non-t14 schools, though.</p>

<p>There are enough stressed-out students on this board without anyone calling every non-T14 school a "third tier toilet." I know it wasn't intended literally, but I personally think that it's a horrible (immature and misleading) way of thinking. By all means let xoxo hang on to it.</p>

<p>Thanks to everyone for your advice! Bluedevilmike, I really appreciate the info about Duke. It's extremely helpful.</p>