Three day pass for C4C before academic year starts?

<p>CST is Combat survival training. They give you a rabbit and a chicken with a pack of potatoes for your small group and send you for a week in the woods. ;) find your own food, shelter, etc etc. Basically, a week of hunger, cold, and drudginess.</p>

<p>The form-096 has always been here I believe. I filled one out two days ago. Fast neat average, friendly good good. :) And some fun comments. </p>

<p>redhead, according to UNcynical, the pendulum is taking us back to the strict academy. Recognition returning, return of demerits (including form 10's), and such are a few of the returning items that are increasing the standards for the last few years. </p>

<p>Now don't get me wrong, the upperclassmen now had to take serious flak and training when they were told no more recognition. They had a rough time reaping that end of the stick.</p>

<p>That's what I thought. Sometimes it's hard to sort through what you guys are saying because I'm not entirely familiar with the cadet lingo. Thank you for clarifying. But anyway, I had heard something about doolies being sent out for a few days in groups of three or four with only a live chicken and some gear. They then have to wring the chicken's neck for food and find their way back to the academy. I don't know if I'm just gullible, but this information came from my XC coach, who stays in contact with several of his former athletes who now attend different service academies...</p>

<p>What is form 10?</p>

<p>Also, do they still have "tours" to work off demerits?</p>

<p>Hornet-- what squadron are you in that's "the best in the wing..." I'm skeptical, this coming from a four dig in group 4.</p>

<p>Form 10's are positive or negative permanent forms for conduct. You can be rewarded for outstanding achievement, or punished (confinements etc) for bad behavior or achievement. </p>

<p>Tours are no longer used here. They are trying to model the AF more closely, and tours definately are not part of the AF.</p>

<p>Benjo6- I'm in CS-05. Best squadron in KNOWLEDGE. I know there were other squadrons that did better in other areas. Our training staff was told by Wing staff that we had the top score for knowledge in the wing. I think that's legit. ;)
What squad are you in?</p>

<p>"Now don't get me wrong, the upperclassmen now had to take serious flak and training when they were told no more recognition. They had a rough time reaping that end of the stick."</p>

<p>You are aware that the class of 09' (HUUUUB!!) had recognition, are you not?</p>

<p>yes i do indeed. My class has a bit more of a connection to your class because our year is going to be so much closer to yours. </p>

<p>I've also heard about your basic and some other things. I don't think it's necessary to bring it up. Probably get me in trouble, ya know?!</p>

<p>lol yes, that's why most of us stay anonymous on here... there was a time when I was a smack that I thought UNcynical might actually be my squadron training officer. By the way, UNcynical, now that it doesn't matter, what squad were you in?</p>

<p>Just in case she isn't around for awhile. UNcynical was in squad 17. I know she was the academic officer for the 2nd semester.</p>

<p>I'm still around, sort of. ;)</p>

<p>Hornet speaks the truth, but any further questions should be addressed via pm as iI don't want TOO much of my info out there. :)</p>

<p>As far as the Recognition issue goes, I've said it before and I'll say it again: Those who didn't go through Recognition (or other training or events)shouldn't have it held against them, as no one chooses the system they go through. </p>

<p>It's possible to be a slacker in a "tough" training environment (although it's more difficult) as well as to be a very good cadet in an "easier" environment. I didn't fully realize this until my last year there, and I ended up going back to one of my previous four degrees (from '08), who had been the most professional, respectful, and motivated four degree I interacted with that year to give him a pair of prop and wings. He could not have done any better in the system he was given, and I did not acknowledge this at the time.</p>

<p>If you went through (or go through Recognition), you should be proud of it. However, there is a difference between pride and arrogance, so make sure you know where that line is. I'm actually of the belief that regardless of what class you're in, you should think your class is the best; if you don't think it's true, then change that so it is true.</p>

<p>There is a pendulum at the Academy that swings back and forth, although sometimes it swings a little farther in one direction than another. It's hard to see this a few months or even a year in, but over the course of a few years, you'll see what I mean. For example, going from my experience, when a lot of the training stuff my class went through disappeared shortly after, we never thought it'd come back (as that's what we were told). However, just three years later, it's somewhat similar. All anyone can really do is make the most out of what they have, regardless of the system they are a part of. Spending time arguing about which class had it harder is a waste of time and very unproductive. Always do your best and live in such a way that when you walk across the stage and throw your hat, you know you couldn't have put in anymore effort or sincerity. ;)</p>