Time for another thread for B and C students

If there’s a storm, stay put. Don’t take risks!
(We need the rest of your adventures, and not in the ‘am in hospital’ way…) Do have a great tour. Should be a both realistic and pretty tour.

To know whether a scholarship has a GPA requirement, look up the combination " college x"+ scholarship name in “…”+“GPA” plus email financial aid ;).
A 3.0 is ok to maintain. A 3.4 is harder, check if it’s each semester or cumulative and whether there’s a semester’s leeway to bring it back up. 3.5+ is very risky and should only be attempted by a student who is very steady, had excellent time management skills, and mostly As in high school (or can handle IB rigor with a 34+). I don’t think a scholarship that requires a 3.5 college GPA is for a B/C student.

I am a 3.3 gpa with 1280 SAT and 32 ACT. I received a 23k per year merit award to Juniata and 28k per year merit award to Allegheny College. I haven’t decided between the two.

Congratulations!!!
Those are great colleges and fabulous awards.
Since Juniata is slightly cheaper than Allegheny and you got a larger scholarship, it’s probably the best value. If you prefer Allegheny, send a copy of your Juniata award, say Allegheny is your first choice but due to the cost differential your family would like you to attend Juniata, is there any way they (Allegheny) can add a little more so you can defend your choice better? (ONLY do that if Allegheny truly IS your first choice and you’re ready to follow through and go.)

@HRSMom, our son’s scholarship has a 3.0 minimum GPA. The one from McDaniel, which is for 25K, only requires that he stays on track to graduate.

Thanks. My sons Ithaca one did not say anything in the letter about a minimum, but i’ll ask when we go there to visit.

@Soybalz have you visited Juniata yet?

@HRSMom I’ve visited, and I’ll be attending the admitted students day on the 7th of April. All indicators point to Allegheny slightly edging Juniata out, but when I was on the Juniata campus last fall, I was really energized. I love their POE approach, and my background really fits well with the school’s focus on international study. That said, Allegheny is offering an opportunity to participate in their Global Citizen Scholars program. I’m attending their admitted students event as well. We’ll see.

@MYOS1634 It’s actually the other way around. I may have written it in a confusing way. I did really love Juniata. The two schools are close in my mind.

@Soybalz something to consider… does Juniata have a minimum GPA requirement? I know Allegheny does not. My d toured both and we much preferred Allegheny. What is your prospective major? Which admitted students day will you be attending? We will be there for the one in early March.

@taverngirl My Allegheny award does not have a minimum, so that is definitely in the plus side. My Juniata award does. I’m looking to study History and International Studies. I’ll be at Allegheny for the 4th and 5th of March, and Juniata on the 7th of April.

What a lovely time we had at Plymouth!!

Its a beautiful campus, nestled in the foothills of the White Mountains. The 5 hour drive may be an issue.

The snowstorm was a non-event; a little snow that stuck and some black ice, nothing that really effected us at all. We left before 7 am today and were home just after noon.

My daughter is still on pins and needles waiting to hear from Southern Conn. Once that comes in, we’ll know her status.

Can you tell us a bit more about Plymouth?

Sure.

For starters, it’s in Plymouth, NH, about 2 hours (more or less) northwest of Boston. 25th percentile SAT scores are 440 math and 440 verbal. It has a student body of about 4,000 undergrads, maybe another 1000 grad. OOS tuition is about $21K, though they gave my daughter a $5000 scholarships… and the higher your GPA, the higher that can be.

It’s at the base of the White Mountains, in the town of Plymouth. But it definitely has a campus feel. They get kids from something like 30 different nations and 45 states; I suspect a good number of those come for athletics. The mix of instate/OOS is close to 50/50.

There’s a huge outdoorsy vibe. They run an annual Ski Day, when apparently everyone heads to the local mountain and enjoys it, instead of having classes. They have an outdoor center, where you can rent or borrow everything from snowshoes to camping equipment to I don’t even know what. While my daughter isn’t an outdoorsy kid (much more of a mall rat), the presence of both a hockey team to follow and an ice rink (she does skate) were appealing.

Their academic model has just changed to one of clusters; a number of majors make up each cluster. Kids from within each cluster work together on a number of projects. The one that was mentioned on Thursday was a small town not too far from the school that was facing a decline in tourism-- and that appears to be a main focus of the local economy. The town turned to Plymouth for help. So a number of clusters were involved; everything from Tourism and Sustainablity to Justice to Business.

The people were just phenomenal. My daughter’s admission counselor stayed to join us for dinner, as did the dean of admissions and the woman running the admissions event. While they talked Plymouth up, they also included my daughter in the conversation, talking about our plans to hit the nearby Tanger outlets after leaving and about how one of the men’s wife did some major damage to the Visa bill there. The kids we met love their school, and aren’t shy about letting others know.

It was interesting seeing a campus at night. While they’re a blue light campus, it seemed (at least at 7 pm) that there were a LOT of kids out and about on a chilly winter night. Our tour guide mentioned that they have an escort program, and that her mom was always nagging her to take advantage, but that she personally didn’t feel the need for it.

The other family on the tour-- a mom and daughter-- didn’t last long. Mom tripped on the staircase of the first building we entered, and hit her head badly. She was bleeding profusely and dazed at first-- it may have been a concussion. She needed medical help. I must say, I was impressed with how quickly they reacted and got help to her.They got kids off the staircase to give her some privacy, just asked them to reroute. It was probably less than 5 minutes before they had an ambulance there with paramedics. Obviously not a planned part of the tour, but impressive nonetheless.

To be honest, I had never heard of it until I started researching schools for my daughter. Now it will be a part of any discussion I have with a senior looking for that sort of enviornment.

Wow, thank you for the detailed report.
Did the campus look well-maintained?
Were you able to visit the gym, the library, a dorm, a science building, or see what classrooms look like?
Do you know if they have weekend entertainment options beside all the outdoorsy stuff?

The buildings aren’t new, but they are well maintained. And nice and warm.

We visited the gym, the library, saw some science buildings (really NOT a priority for my daughter). There were two lecture halls on campus-- one probably seated 60 kids or so, the other closer to 250. But that’s it. The classrooms probably sat, say,35 kids max.

As far as weekend entertainment: We did see signs for a comedian this weekend.That’s a question we should have asked. There were a bunch of kids were working out in the gym. Some were hanging out in the library or the computer lab, working on projects. The HUB is kind of a student center, and a bunch of kids were in and out in groups, relaxing or playing pickup basketball in the gym.

And those outlets 30 minutes away were appealing. (Crazy I know… it’s not like she’ll have tons of disposable income!) One of the girls working the fitness center did mention that it’s relatively easy to get a job on campus-- great for spending money and meeting people.

The kid working the Help Desk mentioned that they’ll do rentals (or was it loaners??) while your laptop/PC/whatever is being repaired. And that her Mac would not be an issue.

I asked our tour guide what she would be doing that night if not giving a tour. She had a couple of options…working on an upcomng project, hanging out with her soccer friends, I forget what else.

Oh, and on the subject of food: My daughter is a total NY PIzza snob, the pizza we had did not meet her standards, lol. But it was also “Steak night” in the dining hall. If you had signed up ahead of time, you could have a steak dinner; there was a man behind the dining hall working a big grill. There is a Starbucks in the Library Cafe, they serve Green Mountain coffee elsewhere. And the Keurig I got her for Christmas is OK in the dorm.

Thanks! :slight_smile: Sounds like a great possibility for a C+/B student, especially one who likes the outdoors and couldn’t get into or afford UVermont. Finding good colleges for kids in the 2.6-3.1 range really isn’t easy so these reports and this thread is really useful. I hope it’ll stay open even after this application season ends.

Wow, that sounds like a great school @bjkmom ! Yet another great option for the B/C student. Hopefully you will soon hear from Southern Conn and then make a decision. With March fast approaching, I think we will all be receiving our admission decisions soon from the remaining colleges. But it has been so interesting to learn about the many options that are out there for our kids!

I’ve started another B/C student thread, copying and pasting my impressions of schools I’ve seen with my kids.

Do you guys want to join in? Mine are all within a few hours of NYC-- it would be great if we could provide a real resource for our kids and others like them, for whom the real competitive schools simply are not going to happen.

Count me in! I have compiled a list of schools, mostly in the south, that offer great options for B/C students.

Great. Any details you can add, to help kids determine fit, would be greatly appreciated~

Here’s the link:
http://talk.qa.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/2059082-school-visits-for-the-b-c-students.html#latest

Well, still no word from Southern Conn. But she’s starting to get pretty enthusiastic about the possibility of attending Plymouth.

We each sent a Thank You to the people we met. In mine, I mentioned that the only disappointment was the inability to hit the school store, since it had closed by the time the tour ended.

A few days later, a package arrived from Plymouth: a T shirt and one of those credit card holders that attach to your phone. My daughter was SO EXCITED! She was wearing the T when she texted the adcom a thank you, and she wore it to school yesterday.

So it will be absolutely nice to know, one way or the other, from Southern Conn. But I think she could be very happy with the idea of attending Plymouth.