<p>everyone, withdraw your apps. we'll teach them to waitlist us!!! charge!!!!!! ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....
(the battle will be won at the lost of the few, we must create a better admission environment for the rest of the high school students)</p>
<p>Come on now bro (or sis...I don't really know which one).</p>
<p>Did the idea that you may not be accepted at WashU really not cross your mind until the "wrong" envelope hit your door. </p>
<p>I won't lie, I was accepted, so I don't know what it is like to be waitlisted, but I have been rejected from many a program, scholarship, and college, and I can tell you that your energy is best spent preparing your self for the next round of the game, not sitting around being ****ed about the last one.</p>
<p>Move on...please....for your own good.</p>
<p>People are just (understandably) ****ed because they were rejected for the WRONG REASONS. I guarantee that none of the scholarships you applied for rejected you because you are overqualified. This is different, and it's painful because it's so opposite to how it should be (ie: hard work, talent, and intelligence pay off).</p>
<p>haha that was cute newbyreborn...but i doubt it will teach washu a lesson...</p>
<p>Look do not say you are overqualified. You do not know what the admissions office thought of you. You may be overqualified and that may have been the reason for waitlisting, but you do NOT know for sure.
I am just getting upset because everyone thinks that they are better than all the acceptees. You might be, but you do not know. Don't just down my throat with all these statistics, because the forms you had to fill out to apply contained much more than statistics.</p>
<p>Obviously there's more to an applicant than their numbers - I agree with you there. However, I know plenty of kids already accepted to EXCELLENT schools (Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Williams) that were waitlisted by WashU -- obviously they were incredibly interesting people with more than just "book smarts." </p>
<p>To justify WashU's shady admission practices with: "Well they look at more than just numbers" is silly.</p>
<p>Please stop being bitter and angry and claiming conspiracy theories.</p>
<p>So, in an incredible scheme to up their USWorld Rankings, they deferred all the really smart kids! What geniuses! Guess what, the kids they accepted are equally as smart, talented, and hardworking. </p>
<p>Do not, i repeat, do not, try to downplay the work or talent of those who did get accepted.</p>
<p>I understand that amazing kids are waitlisted. Same is true at HYP. they may be shady about their practices, but not all that much. If you have a good college counselor they should reinforce the fact that you need to express interest and get to know the admissions representative for your area. That is for any college. Some kids simply blew off this step at Wash U because it was a "safety school" and they assumed they would be accepted.
I know 3 RD acceptees other than myself and one waitlisted kid, and only four kids applied other that myself applied RD. All of the accepted kids are much smarter in terms of grades, classes, SAT's than the waitlisted kid. The acceptees are more likely than not going to end up attending Ivy league universities instead of Wash U because at my highly competitive private school we are the top of the class and will be offered admission to "better" schools. Shouldn't Wash U consider that if they are going to consider anything?</p>
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Do not, i repeat, do not, try to downplay the work or talent of those who did get accepted.
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No one here has insinuated that other than you.</p>
<p>i already submitted my form to keep my application on the waitlist, sorry. Hell, if i paid for that application fee, I want a decision, even if it is rejection. gives me closure.</p>
<p>I think it has been posted ad nauseum that no one is downplaying the acceptances of people. and since we dont know what actually led to the insanely high amount of waitlisted people. barring access into the mind of the adcom we can only talk about assumptions</p>
<p>i know a school where kids thought they were waitlisted because they were overqualified even though clearly the top 2 ranked people were accepted. </p>
<p>Keep on deluding yourself</p>
<p>Excuses Excuses I got waitlisted and I'm not really complaining. WashU is my number 2 choice after Columbia and chances are I will get rejected from Columbia. Why would they reject overqualified people you probably just didn't have the right extra curriculars. I was not overqualified for WashU i'm underqualified and got waitlisted. Obviously you are ****ed but be realistic they didn't reject you because they are like wow this kid is too smart NO</p>
<p>raven001: "Do not, i repeat, do not, try to downplay the work or talent of those who did get accepted. </p>
<p>No one here has insinuated that other than you."</p>
<p>raven001: "People are just (understandably) ****ed because they were rejected for the WRONG REASONS. I guarantee that none of the scholarships you applied for rejected you because you are overqualified..."</p>
<p>are you kidding me? you were implying that you are all waitlisted just b/c you're "overqualified", i.e. "the wrong reasons" (your words). THAT's downplaying the work and talent of those accepted ("overqualified" implies that you are better than those accepted). if you don't see that then that's really unfortunate. don't get me wrong, i was waitlisted at washu, too, and i definitely thought my stats were competitive (at least dartmouth, unc-ch, uva, northwestern, and williams all apparently think so). do i think i'm overqualified? no. i didn't visit washu, never emailed it, didn't apply for merit aid, never talked to a visiting rep. in short, i didn't show any interest. granted, i was upset when waitlisted b/c it seemed like other schools that already likelied/early wrote me didn't care, as i didn't show any extra interest at any other school. my mission now is to emphasize to rising seniors interested in washu that it really likes extra attention, not bashing it by being arrogant and saying that i was too good for it to accept me.</p>
<p>you should check out katieshen's stats (somewhere in this forum). it rapes some of the stats of you "overqualified" people pretty badly and she got accepted to washu (she's in my math class, btw; great person. she might sound psycho in this forum but some of you do too).</p>
<p>i did withdraw my app to washu, tho, as i'm sure i'll be happy at another school that wants me in the first place.</p>
<p>btw, the above comment was to directly refute raven001's statement.</p>
<p>Haha I was waitlisted and already moved on...but I'm annoyed at both parties for fighting(yeah I let these things bother me, but meh).</p>
<p>I think raven's point is exactly how I and many other waitlisters feel, we were waitlisted for not showing enough interest/being overqualified. In my case, there was no way for me to show interest other than email and return little postcard thing wustl sent as there were no interviews or sessions in my area. Plus, my parents were against visiting schools I have not been accepted to yet, as it may be a waste of money. Anyways, I don't think raven or any other rational waitlisted person is saying that acceptees are at all underqualified or undeserving to be accepted. You acceptees definitely deserve it and are obviously qualified, while the rest of us are(was for me) bitter when we too were qualified and deserving. Ok, I've done my little schpiel(sp?). Over and out.</p>
<p>i am waitlisted too. just wondering how many applicants are waitlisted in Wustl? as far as i know, merely in China, there are about 30 or more.</p>
<p>How do you know you were waitlisted for not showing intrest. That, to this day, remains a CC rumor.</p>
<p>You think you have all EARNED a spot. I hope you haven't been living your lives for the last 4 years just to get a big envelope in the mail. If you have, I think you are now beginning to discover what an empty life that is.</p>
<p>okay guys... all of you have awesome stats. the difference between getting in and being waitlisted was the extra amount of effort you put into your application and interview.
my counselor talked to the director of international admissions and she said they really really want people who really really want to come to wash u as their first choice. they do not want to be like other schools who have a lot of students who are sore over not getting into an ivy.</p>
<p>for those waitlisted, i feel your pain. i was waitlisted by wash u as well... but i thought about how much effort i put into the application, and to be honest, i didn't really put any into it. at my interview, i showed up in a t-shirt and jeans (i took the 'casual dress' thing a bit too far) and i told the interviewer i was also applying to several ivy league schools. thats basically why i was waitlisted (of course it'd be great if i had a higher GPA and SAT scores), cuz it seemed like i didn't even care about wash u... in fact, i still don't. but my point is, wash u didn't feel the love from u if u were waitlisted. i'm sure if u paid a visit, wrote an essay on why u still want to go to wash u, or called them up, u could easily come off the waitlist.</p>
<p>They won't care if you withdraw your app. It'll just make the waitlist shorter, which won't suddenly make them feel bad.</p>
<p>Grow the hell up.</p>