<p>I am sick of hearing about URm thinking they can be accepted to prestigous colleges just bc they are black or hispanic that really sickens me. I am black myself at a predominantly white school and 26 out of 543 and I didn't get there bc I am black, the perception that colleges will lower thier standards for blacks or whatever is repugnant and no person will take urms seriously who go to Harvard if Harvard or UPenn or Yale lower thier standards it makes it hard for those who do deserve it(not that I do I probably couldn't get into those schools). I would rather go to podunk u and know I deserved and earned my position than to a better college and not deserve it. Does anyone else feel this way?</p>
<p>Are you angry at those URMs or at Ivy admissions committees who admit them?</p>
<p>I think that many URM's that go to prestigious universities did work there and had no delusion of automatic acceptance.
I certainly don't as a Hispanic student.</p>
<p>^^^i agree.</p>
<p>"I am sick of hearing about URm thinking they can be accepted to prestigous colleges just bc they are black or hispanic that really sickens me."</p>
<p>i don't know of many who think this way...</p>
<p>Your statement is not valid. I also am a black male in a mostly white school-many times the only black in my class. I work just as hard, if not harder than those around me in order to succeed in life.
If anyone makes it into an Ivy League School, he/she has worked hard. Beyond race and color, I believe that the admissions team is able to discern the hard-workers of the bunch who fit the criteria to become an Ivy-Leaguer.</p>
<p>I completely agree with the above poster. In chances threads, you need to state if you are a urm because it IS going to have a slight effect on your chance of getting into a college. I have a Hispanic friend who is amazing academically. Even if he was Caucasian, he would have no problem getting into HYPMS. </p>
<p>On the flip side, I can see the OP's point. If someone starts a thread stating they have a 1650 sat and 2.7 and want to get into Yale because they're black, that would be ridiculous- but that rarely if ever happens on here.</p>
<p>'I am sick of hearing about URm thinking they can be accepted to prestigous colleges just bc they are black or hispanic"</p>
<p>Maybe you can link an example.... I've never seen this. But I suppose this is as good away as any to start a new affirmative action thread. Can never have to many of those.... (sarcasm).</p>
<p>To the OP, typically when URMs post threads asking about their chances to get into Ivy League schools it is other CC members who are typically not URMs who make comments like, "well your URM status will help you get in." I know I have not been a member very long but I can honestly say that I have yet to see a serious post where a minority asserted that he or she could get into an Ivy League school simply because of his or her URM status.</p>
<p>Shut up. You're so deluded. All URMs don't believe they'll get accepted to Harvard with 1700s because they're black. You're an idiot for generalizing.</p>
<p>dbate are you feeling some sort of resentment towards those urm's that do get into the ivy league? i feel like youve dismissed your own chances and now feel like you have to bash others for your own failure.</p>
<p>I'm a Hispanic female and I don't expect anything to be handed to me...I study hard for school, I prepared for my SAT, I do what I have to do to get myself where I want to go.</p>
<p>I can disprove your point anyway, I really don't <em>need</em> to work as hard as I do, because as long as I stay in the top 10% (I'm top 2%) of my class, I would be in at UT or A&M, which is where I'm considering going. I continue working because I don't want to settle into that state of mind...and I never know if I'll change my mind and decide to go elsewhere.</p>
<p>I'm just as sure there are some trust fund babies who expect to get into HYP because mommy and daddy donated a new building. </p>
<p>Most of these deluded people with a false sense of entitlement are the exception, not the rule, and they're seen across all races and socioeconomic levels.</p>
<p>^^^very true...</p>
<p>I'm not a URM (I'm an asian ORM), and I think it's perfectly valid for URMs to get a leg in admissions, because it isn't the same thing for a hispanic/african-american's socioeconomic backgrnd to compete against a caucasian/asian-american.
However, the real injustice lays, I believe, in admitting URMs who are from WEALTHY socioeconomic backgrounds and simply get into prestigious places for their ethnic status.</p>
<p>And here we go....</p>
<p>As a black male, who tries really hard, goes to a predominately Asian school, and wants to attend Yale, I'm in disgust at your comment. You make it seem that Blacks who do attend these schools are complete and total idiots who don't deserve to receive an "astute" education. WORDS OF WISDOM: MINORITIES DON'T GET MANY OPPURTUNITIES IN THIS WORLD...SO TAKE THE FEW CHANCES THAT DO COME SUCH AS AFFIRMATIVE ACTION</p>
<p>please please lets not turn this into an affirmative action debate.lets end it here.</p>
<p>^I second that...</p>
<p>I think the schools were going to accept a more or less set number of URMs anyway, therefore when one Hispanic gets in another Hispanic didn't, when one Black does another one didn't, and so on and so forth. They are not taking any body else's place.</p>
<p>And within each group they try to accept the most qualified.</p>
<p>my sentiment wasn't born out of my lack of ability to get into these schools, it was more from my experiences one time i was talking to my friend who is Indian no. 7 in our class and we were talking about medical school and I said I didn't want to major in engineering and mess up my chances to get into med school and she said that I was a minority so i would. that proverbial statement is repeated and it is annoying and it seems to be a massage to those white ppl who aren't good enough to get into those schools and they bash, which irritated me. I wasn't bashing ppl who work hard, it was more a repudiation of those who criticize minorities who work hard, but I understand if it came as if I was attacking minorities and for that I apologize.</p>
<p>haha, here on cc, it's the non-URMs telling URMs who post chance threads that they'll definitely get into certain schools. I've seen the phrase "in b/c ur black" way too many times to count.
I've heard that those who benefit most from AA are white, middle class women. Anyone know any facts that would support/reject this?</p>