<p>Now, I’ve read on NYU’s website that if you apply early decision, you are either accepted or rejected…(No deferment was also what I gathered from the reading). So my question is, would it just be wiser to apply for regular decision for Tisch or Early Decision…NYU is my first choice, by the way.</p>
<p>I know of a local girl who applied ED to NYU/Tisch, auditioned early on, was accepted and spent the next several months celebrating while everyone else suffered through the stressful audition process. If it is definitely your first choice and you can swing the finances I would recommend ED. How nice it would be to have a stress-free Senior year!</p>
<p>If you are clear that it is your first choice, there is no downside to applying ED and I have heard it increases your chances. And personally, speaking for my D, I am happy they don’t defer, I think in the long run it’s less painful that way. And as it happens most of the kids from my D’s school who have applied early to Tisch were accepted, and, boy, did they enjoy their second semester of senior year!</p>
<p>There is a downside to applying ED, and that is financial aid. Certainly you can apply ED to Tisch and still apply for financial aid, but it means that you if you do need financial aid in a significant way, you won’t be able to compare financial aid offers from various institutions that accepted you. You <em>have</em> to accept NYU Tisch’s acceptance, in other words; essentially, if you audition/apply ED and get in, you are agreeing to go there.</p>
<p>If finances are not an issues, go for it. The acceptance rate ED is somewhat higher, I believe, than is RD, so if you have a better chance of getting in.</p>
<p>I have also contemplated this issue. Early decision sounds like a great idea, in fact the literature we get in the mail from NYU state that acceptance into the school and financial aid is better for those choosing Early decision. But, if you get acceted you have to give and answer in a short period of time and also notify other schools that you are not interested.</p>
<p>So, here is my delimma…say you get ac1cepted into NYU and have to give them your decision in December…auditions for the MT Cap 21 isn’t until January or February. What if you don’t get accepted? And you have just cancelled your apps with all the other schools? I guess you are just out of luck!</p>
<p>Auditions for ED students take place in November. The later auditions are for RD students.</p>
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<p>While the acceptance rate is higher in the ED round, are you sure you read that the financial aid is better in ED? I can’t imagine that to be true or to have even been stated by the school. I would love to read the wording. If anything, one would assume that financial aid is equal to or worse in the ED round than the RD round because in ED you are committed to attend and the school (any school) would be less inclined to offer a competitive FA package when they know you will attend if accepted and cannot compare their FA package with that from another school. </p>
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<p>What do you mean by “give an answer in a short period of time”? Your “answer” MUST be yes. ED is a binding agreement. Do not apply ED unless you are prepared to attend the school if accepted. You don’t get to decide yes or no. It is a binding agreement to attend. While you may have to send the reply in over as short period of time, the period of time is irrelevant as you have to reply “yes”. And if accepted ED to a college, you MUST withdraw all your applications to any other school immediately. </p>
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<p>You misunderstand. When you apply ED to NYU/Tisch, it is all or nothing…you cannot be admitted to the university academically without getting into Tisch. And you can’t get into Tisch without NYU. It is ONE admissions process together. If you wish to apply ED to Tisch, you must send in you application by Nov. 1 and you must audition during the month of November. When you get your admissions decision around Dec. 15, you will either be accepted to NYU/Tisch or denied in sum. It will not be too late to audition at all the other schools.</p>
<p>And the ED auditions are only held in NYC (and last fall were only held during one specific week from which you picked the day and AM or PM slot), whereas for RD there are regional options. Something to consider if you live outside the area.</p>
<p>Thanks ccs for pointing out that if my D isn’t accepted in cap21 there is still time to do other auditions. However some of the schools on her list have November deadlines for applications to the schools.</p>
<p>And soozievt. I have read so much in regards to all the schools, financial aid, ed, auditions, etc. some of the information begins to run together. I pulled out the literature I was paraphrasing, it comes from the Spring 2009 Parents mailout, page 6. It is clear that “Early Decision plans may not be the best option if your fmaily needs to compare the financial aid packages offered from several different colleges in order for your child to decide which college to attend.” I confused this with another thing I read on ED, stating that those accepted into Ed and also Need based Financial Aid, there will be more available from the up front pool of ED acceptances. Made sense to me. </p>
<p>And thank you soozievt, it is true I am misunderstanding some of what I read, this is why I am on this forum. We are still in the data collecting stages and trying to make the right decisions for us. So let me see if I have this right? If accepted ED to NYU, Tisch automatically accepts but we won’t know what program in Tisch until after the auditions? Maybe not cap21 but does that mean automatically one of the programs is a sure thing? </p>
<p>Just trying to understand your statement. </p>
<p>"“When you apply ED to NYU/Tisch, it is all or nothing…you cannot be admitted to the university academically without getting into Tisch. And you can’t get into Tisch without NYU. It is ONE admissions process together”</p>
<p>Thanks to anyone who will help all of us going thru the process with your experience and wisdom. Also, I noted on my last post for this thread there were man typo’s, I think it was very late at night and I am sure I was typing fast and certainly did not proof before posting. Please excuse.</p>
<p>Tisch is a school where the college acceptance (in this case Tisch) and the university acceptance are linked. Meaning that, unlike some other schools, you will not ever know if you could have been accepted to NYU academically if you are not accepted into Tisch (assuming that is the college to which you apply), and you will not ever know if you could have been accepted to Tisch if you are not accepted academically to NYU… it is all or nothing. You must apply to a specific college at NYU, and you cannot (from what I understand, indicate a second choice option… for example you cannot apply to both Tisch and Steinhardt… I am not sure how this plays out in the case of double majoring). However, you can indicate a first choice studio within Tisch and indicate that you will also accept a different studio assignment within Tisch. I am unclear as to whether or not you have this option ED.</p>
<p>ED (Early Decision) is a commitment that if you are accepted to a college or university you will attend. EA Early Action) is an opportunity to apply early and find out early, but is not binding. Most schools do not have both EA and ED, rather one or the other… I believe that NYU has ED, but not EA…Sooze? </p>
<p>The ED questions to ask in terms of NYU is if you are able to indicate “ED ONLY if I am accepted to X studio”, or if you are accepted into Tisch MUST you attend regardless of studio assignment.</p>
<p>To clarify…NYU is an ED school and does not offer an EA option. So, yes, ED is BINDING. </p>
<p>At your ED audition (which is the same as how it is done in the RD audition), you can indicate a first choice studio and whether or not you wish to be considered for other studios at Tisch if you are not placed in your first choice studio. But if you are unwilling to be considered for any studio BUT your first choice one (ie., CAP21), you would then say “I will only accept my first choice studio and no other”…in other words, “CAP21 only.” Be away if you indicate at the audition “CAP21 only”, it will NOT increase your odds of getting into CAP21. Rather, if they cannot place you in CAP and you said "CAP21 only, then you will not be admitted to NYU/Tisch. It actually has the potential to decrease your chance of being admitted to Tisch as you won’t be considered for a second or third choice or any studio placement if not selected for your first choice studio. </p>
<p>In practical terms…for example, my D did not apply ED to Tisch but had considered doing so. Had she applied ED, however, she would have said, “CAP21 only” at the audition because ED is BINDING. It COULD happen if not admitted to CAP, one would be admitted to a different studio (if she did not say “CAP only” at the audition) and would be committed to attend NYU/Tisch for that studio. So if she did not get CAP21, she would not want to have to make a commitment (which ED makes you do) to a different studio that was binding. But since she applied RD, which is not binding, she gave CAP21 as her first choice studio, but indicated she was willing to be considered for other Tisch studios and mentioned her second and third choice studios. She figured that RD was not binding and she could see what she was offered and decide later if she would consider whichever studio she was placed in, if accepted. It turns out she did get her first choice, CAP21, but had she gotten placed in a different studio, she could have weighed all her college options and then have decided. </p>
<p>For instance, I can think of a friend who wanted MT who got into Tisch RD but was placed in Playwrights and since she had many BFA in MT acceptances to highly regarded programs, she decided against Tisch as she did not have a MT studio placement and had other MT options on her plate. Same with another friend who applied RD and got placed in a different Tisch studio and had other MT college options, including top ones and took another BFA in MT option when not given CAP21 placement. But for ED, her friends who wanted CAP, said “CAP only” since they did not want to be bound to Tisch in ED if placed in a non-MT studio. I had a student two years ago who wanted MT but was willing to accept any studio and she applied ED and was admitted but did not get CAP. She was placed in Stella Adler studio and was bound to attend…though was VERY happy to do so. </p>
<p>So, Kat, yes, you can say “CAP21 only” (or another studio only) at the ED audition and only be considered for that studio or nothing. But if you say, “CAP is first choice, but I’ll accept another studio” in the ED round, you are bound to attend even if not placed in your preferred studio. If you are not willing to attend if placed in a different studio, either you have to say “CAP only” at the audition, or else try RD and see what happens as it is not binding.</p>
<p>To momathome - Yes the timing of applications to other schools even if you are donig NYU ED doesn’t work when application due dates are Dec. 1 (though I suppose those with January 1 app deadline dates could be submitted over the winter break if needed as you would hear from NYU by 12/15). </p>
<p>Given the low odds of getting into any of these programs, we applied to 12 all at once and had all the auditions scheduled. In fact, two schools that offer rolling admissions gave her academic acceptances long before the auditions would have taken place since she got all her apps sent out in early September and another one she auditioned for EA she got an acceptance to in mid-Dec. So it was nice to have those as “back-ups” to know she was at least going somewhere!</p>
<p>When D got into NYU ED we had to cancel all the other auditions and, yes, all those application fees were lost (and it adds up to hundreds of dollars!), but we couldn’t figure out another way to do it and assure if NYU did not come through, that she would have had adequate other options to audition (we had tried to schedule as many as possible at our local Unifieds to save on travel expenses). And we really did think it would be a stretch academically to get accepted so it seemed prudent to plan as if it would not happen.</p>
<p>So that’s just our experience. I would absolutely do it the same way if doing it all over again as we were trying to take as much stress out of the process as humanly possible. Good luck!!</p>
<p>Just to clarify something soozievt said, in case of misunderstanding. Soozie said:</p>
<p>But if you say, “CAP is first choice, but I’ll accept another studio” in the ED round, you are bound to attend even if not placed in your preferred studio.</p>
<p>By “bound,” Soozie means you are OBLIGATED/HAVE TO attend if you have applied/auditioned early decision and agreed that you want CAP, but are given another studio. To say it another way, if you apply early decision and want CAP but say you are open to other studios and they put you in (pulling one at random), Meisner, you HAVE to agree to attend Meisner. </p>
<p>Sorry to be so picky, but sometimes people think the word “bound” means “likely,” as in
“If you eat a lot of cookies, you are bound to get fat.” Just wanted to make sure we are absolutely clear so people understand the nature of early decision. :)</p>
<p>NMR…thanks for making that clearer…yes, “bound” would mean obligated to attend as ED is a binding contract to attend if admitted no matter what studio you are placed in. Since ED is binding, if you are not willing to take any studio other than CAP21, you would have to apply and say “CAP21 only”. </p>
<p>I want to echo ccsmom…if you apply to any college ED, you should ideally continue with doing and sending in all your other applications and scheduling all your auditions as if the ED will not come through. Then, if the ED school admits you, you then would pull all of your applications and lose the app fees and cancel the audition appointments. I had a student apply ED to Tisch two years ago and we proceeded with her other 11 or 12 applications and audition appointments and all were done before she heard from NYU but then she got into Tisch and cancelled the rest and lost the app fees. It would NOT be a good idea to wait until Dec. 15 to hear from the ED school before doing applications (which require a lot of time to do well, let alone some schools require an app in order to secure an audition appointment) and it would not be wise to not get your auditions scheduled while waiting for the ED decision. Yes, it means losing some app fees, but then again, if you get into the ED school, you save money on traveling to more auditions.</p>
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<p>Even if the application deadlines are earlier, you can still apply E.D. to another school. Applying E.D. does not prohibit you from submitting other applications, regardless of the due dates for apps. Ideally, anyone who is applying E.D. should have all apps ready to go, for each due date. The year my D applied E.D., all her auditions were scheduled and apps ready to go when she auditioned in early Nov. for Tisch. The CMU app was due 12/15 and had been mailed when she got her acceptance from Tisch on 12/13. CMU was the only school on her list that had an early due date. Had she been rejected from Tisch, she would have mailed her other apps so that they arrived by the due dates in January. As it was, she didn’t have to do that, and only had to cancel her other scheduled auditions. Kids who count on that E.D. acceptance and ignore their other apps are playing with fire, in my opinion.</p>
<p>Also check as some will let you schedule an audition and then do the application and others you have to have the application in before you can schedule the audition. Using the Common Application form helps a lot but you still have unique supplements for each one (NYU has 5 supplement questions–most have fewer–and NYU’s have to each fit into a 500 character slot so a bit of a challenge to complete) so it is best to have all ready to go ahead of time and then just mail according to your personal schedule prior to the due dates. For us, it was peace of mind to just submit them all at the same time and early as once the very hectic senior school year started, writing essays and completing forms later on would have been difficult, not to mention the stress of having to complete apps upon finding out your first choice school did not come through.</p>
<p>Thank you all for your help!
I don’t think I was as clear as I could have been…While I know that ED is legally binding, would it hurt my chances of getting in by applying ED, because I would think that a majority of the students who apply to Tisch ED are quite astronomically good (not to say that I’m not) but I’m just wondering if I would have a better shot applying RD because Tisch would want to see better candidates had I applied ED.
Sorry if that confused anyone but thank you for reading!</p>
<p>PokerFace, you have a BETTER chance/increased odds of getting in in the ED round. That’s a statistical fact. </p>
<p>There is no reason to think that the candidates who go for ED are more talented or better than those who go ED. I have never even heard that said before! </p>
<p>The only differences between kids who apply ED and RD are:
- a belief that NYU Tisch is where they are absolutely sure they want to go
- financial considerations (in other words, the ED candidates do not feel they need to compare financial aid offers.)</p>
<p>Again, you up the odds of getting in if you go ED <em>if</em> you have what NYU wants.</p>
<p>Thank you all for going into so much detail in explaining the ED decision process. I can’t even begin to tell you how much I learned from everyone’s post. Being at the beginning of this process, understanding the lingo and all the processes can be overwhelming and get a bit confusing. </p>
<p>I also learned in this thread about Early Action. Does anyone know which schools are EA?</p>
<p>Emerson offers Early Action, and so does the University of Miami. I’m sure there are more…just can’t remember off the top of my head.</p>