To all the guys asking girl questions...

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<p>If you are only attracted to girls because of their looks, you can't be offended when girls don't pay attention to you for equally superificial reasons. I'm sorry, but if you're not a player, you're not a player. To the average shy, intellectual guy, "hot" girls tend not to be very interesting people, trust me, I've dated a couple. They are superficial and often very materialistic. Hot girls will not like you because you're nice or because you're smart. They like good looking guys with money, just like you only care about their physical assets. No contrived plot of yours will work. If you do manage to get a hot girl, she will trample all over you. Take my advice, date girls in your league. </p>

<p>With that said, find a girl you actually have something in common with, and you might be very happy with a real relationship, instead of hating yourself for not being a player.</p>

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<p>^^^Word.</p>

<p>Wu-Tang Financial comes through again and again. All day, everyday. Word is bond n***as.</p>

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<p>Cute girls.</p>

<p>They're awesome.</p>

<p>Not hot ones.</p>

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<p>a hot girl is just as likely to be an interesting person as an ugly girl...</p>

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If you do manage to get a hot girl, she will trample all over you. Take my advice, date girls in your league.

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And where is this information coming from? Is there a national association that puts out bulletins like these?</p>

<p>So I shouldn't strive for anything other than "what I can get"? I have to settle for someone I don't really want?</p>

<p>Man, I bet you have a good relationship record.</p>

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<p>this is pretty prejudiced and cynical. You may be right in some cases, but I don't think 100% of hot girls are superficial or dumb or whatever it is that you said. Though I will admit, finding a hot ,smart, morally sound girl would be pretty sweet.</p>

<p>Cause we all know, cash controls everything around us, green, get the money, dolla dolla bill yall... diversify yo' bonds</p>

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diversify yo' bonds

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<p>For the record, this isn't bad advice. It's always good to diversify your investments. :p</p>

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<p>"You gotta invest in nuclear bombs."</p>

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<p>why cant we just forget about girls. if they really want us, they can make all the effort. You guys should just chill out and relax. The more desperate you are, the less your chances of getting a girl.</p>

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<p>I think it all depends on what type of girl you consider to be hot</p>

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<p>yeah
pretty girls>>>hott girls</p>

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<p>You have to realize that women do not actually "select" in a volitional sense the men they get romantically attracted to and involved with.</p>

<p>The single most important thing that attractive females often crave is "chemistry" which for them is like a drug. The number one thing creating that high is the (subconscious) belief (correctly or not) that the man they are first meeting or dating will soon be or actually is cheating on them - because nonmonogamy in males was the optimal genetic survival strategy for males during the first 3 to 5 million year of man's existence - as seed spreading males tended to be winners in the lottery of life</p>

<p>Now this has nothing do do with conscious rational thinking, however more importantly if flows from the deep logic of evolution and survival - which is really far more important in these matters</p>

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<p>LOL, first 3 to 5 million years of existence? The earliest human fossil records are only about 130,000 years old.</p>

<p>Citation, I don't believe your theory.</p>

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<p>I agree with the OP</p>

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<p><a href="http://www.post-gazette.com/healthscience/20020711ancestor0711p3.asp%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.post-gazette.com/healthscience/20020711ancestor0711p3.asp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>its called evolution for a reason and term human if often used in the general sense to include early or pre-human (non-ape) beings</p>

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its called evolution for a reason and term human if often used in the general sense to include early or pre-human (non-ape) beings

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<p>Yea, you're right. I shouldn't have posted that. </p>

<p>I still don't believe that your theory holds any water.</p>

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<p>From a girl's perspective:</p>

<p>It may suck, but the first factor in a relationship is usually physical attraction. You know, "ooh that guy looks nice, i think i'll obsess over him for a week". I personally usually go for guys who are both good looking and funny, but the good looking part is usually thrown out the window when you get to know someone. I just can't stand ass wholes. I'm always hesitant to get involved with guys because i have this fear that they won't like me if i don't put out on a first hook up (people don't really date anymore, do they?)</p>

<p>anyway this isn't going anywhere so i'll shut up now.</p>

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<p>From a girl's perspective:</p>

<p>It may suck, but the first factor in a relationship is usually physical attraction. You know, "ooh that guy looks nice, i think i'll obsess over him for a week". I personally usually go for guys who are both good looking and funny, but the good looking part is usually thrown out the window when you get to know someone. I just can't stand ass wholes. I'm always hesitant to get involved with guys because i have this fear that they won't like me if i don't put out on a first hook up (people don't really date anymore, do they?)</p>

<p>anyway this isn't going anywhere so i'll shut up now.

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<p>All though that's true, many guys aren't like that. I would only hook up after a date.</p>

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<p>The OP and most threads on this board are grossly misguided. I feel compelled to set this nonsense straight.</p>

<p>First of all, men are primarily attracted by physical appearance. It's evolutionary wired and proven in psychology.</p>

<p>Woman, on the other hand, are attracted primarily by attitude (personality) and what emotions the guy can make her feel. It's actually pretty complex though. Looks come into play, but are a much smaller factor than you think. First of all, fashion is separate and any guy can look like he has his s*** together. Secondly, a guy with looks probably already has high self esteem and confidence (huge attraction with girls), although any guy, even one EXTREMLEY UGLY MOFO, can have a confidence that surpasses a hot guy. This is also related to appearing needy, desperate, or supplicating chicks. All HUGE turnoffs. Third, the guy with looks has social proof, aka, he is seen with chicks in public and thus viewed as desiriable. If an average guy or extremely homely hobo goes up and starts talking to a hot chicks, or starts making female friends, and ANOTHER hot girl sees you walking with other girls (even if its a random, impersonal conversation) they WILL become more attracted to you.</p>

<p>Money is also a factor but again not remotely necessary for attracting hot chicks. Through evolutionary psychology, chicks want a guy who is a "provider" aka can care for their children. And through learning social symbols such as a nice suit or wads of cash, they become more attracted to guys with these symbols. However, you can show you are a protector, are in control of situations, or will take care of her in other ways; aka your actions and personality. You are paying attention to the means values, not the ends values, which are more important.</p>

<p>Also, girls like guys with expensive clothes because 1. it may convey a 'player' attitude at times and 2. they are concerned with how others perceive them so they want you to have the latest fashion.
<strong><em>You can easily have great fashion without being extremely wealthy. Too long to comment here, but most guys rich and poor are extremely clueless. No you're striped button down shirt is not original or awesome.</em></strong></p>

<p>Are you gettin me? Have you ever seen that extremely ugly, unshaven, dog-faced frankenstein making out with the hot blonde? Yes, you have seen this. It's because the guy had confidence and didn't give a flying f***. He also didn't get extremely nervous or bend over for this chick. In fact he probably came off as extremely cocky and made fun of her. I know I've seen this plenty of times.</p>

<p>You're right, wutang, intelligence and being nice aren't turn-ons for girls. It's not like they're turn offs either, they're neutral. However, many intelligent guys tend to overanalyze situations, stalling and hesitating and acting unconfident, those ARE turnoffs which can be changed. Being nice isn't a turn-off, its just that many nice guys may come off as needy, be an emotional punching bag, not be confident or dominant, supplicate, or refuse to acknowlege that they are sexual beings or have any sexuality (HUGE mistake).</p>

<p>"[hot girls] will trample all over you"
Only if you let them. Usually the hot girls I meet have a much smaller frame then me and are significantly physically weaker. Seems pretty hard for them to trample me. Unless I put one on a pedastal, call her "sweet goddess," and fail to realize that there are millions of hot girls out there, and actually realize my desires are more important than hers.</p>

<p>Btw, you may have noticed that many hot girls are "b1tches." This is not really their personality, but more of a "b1tch shield" they put up to protect themselves. This is because hot girls get hit on by guys ALL THE TIME. I mean put yourself in their shoes. Guys are approaching you all day, many undesirable, acting awkward and nervous around you and saying weirdo or creepy things. So they develop this b1tch shield. To destroy it (this only works on 9s or 10s who act above you or like b1tches) simply make fun of them playfully. Don't hate them for it, understand it.</p>

<p>"it may suck, but the first factor in a relationship is physical attraction"
-for women its not physical attraction, but simply 'attraction.'
-first visual impressions are extremely important, not really looks but if the guy knows what he's doing, is having fun, looks together, is with some friends or girls, in the center of attention, has a confident air, there are many things.</p>

<p>Most men prefer girls with high self esteem and find them more interesting than low self esteem girls. This is separate from attraction based on physical appearance, but hot girls may have higher self esteem.</p>

<p>On a final note, many guys are superficial and judge girls <em>solely</em> on appearance. These guys typically have no self-respect and will let a psychotic hot girl emotionally destroy him.</p>

<p>However, the true men that have respect must have a physical attraction for a girl (which isn't hard at all ladies), and then actually find the girl interesting and enjoy her personality and values. These men actually have higher standards than their superficial counterparts.</p>

<p>And personally, I'd prefer a '6' or '7' with a shining personality over a perfect '10' or even an 11 who is psychotic. And btw girls don't fret over this appearance thing. ANY girl can be super hot simply with EFFORT. If you find the right fashion, haircut, makeup, and have confidence you will be hot.</p>

<p>"Stick with girls in your league" Get rid of your limiting beliefs. Any girl is in your league.</p>

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ANY girl can be super hot simply with EFFORT. If you find the right fashion, haircut, makeup, and have confidence you will be hot.

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<p>I agreed with EVERYTHING in your post until I read this. Some girls are just fugly.</p>

<p>On a serious note, that makes me feel a lot better. I can stop worrying about my looks and focus on other aspects such as confidence! Humor is kinda innate...either u have it or you don't. I dont' think u have to be funny all the time. Some jokes here and there should do the business.</p>